Posted on Jan 21, 2016
SPC Kevin Boothby
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I am looking to go to OCS. I have only 3 years TIS and I am a Specialist. I am currently pursuing by Bachelor of Science in Religion. I have roughly 5 or 6 classes left, and I may have my degree this August (2016) My current GPA is 3.66. I do not have a security clearance; however I am confident that I can obtain one now. My PT score is around 270. I have recently been appointed a team leader by my squad leader. Based on what I have briefly written, would I be a good candidate for OCS?
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CPT Mark Gonzalez
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I applied and was accepted as a PFC so it is possible.

The things you would do to strengthen your file to get promoted are the same things that will help you for ocs. Good weapons, APFT, schooling, etc. Chase your dream and good luck.
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SPC Kevin Boothby
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I appreciate your advice. It is definitely a dream as of now, maybe if I build up my file as you said I will be more likely to be selected later this year.
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Good responses in this thread - all of it great advice. As a former SPC myself (OCS 2008) I concur to strengthen your file with the same items that make you better for your SGT board (APFT, weapons, college, positive leadership and rapport with your CoC.) The only thing I have to add to the conversation is my advice to apply. If it is a desire of yours and you have the afore mentioned qualities then going through the application process, although lengthy and sometimes stressful, will most certainly reflect positively upon you whether or not you are accepted. If its truly your goal - don't let anything stop you. The proof of your desire is your persistence so never give up!
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SPC Kevin Boothby
SPC Kevin Boothby
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Thank you for the encouragement. This certainly is what I would like to do with my military career. I am definitely up to the challenge, although my weapons qual and PT score I need to work on a bit more. Thank you again for your response!
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The first thing I always ask anyone wanting to go to OCS is why? Are you sure you understand the role officers play vs that of NCO's? An Officer's role is to plan and lead missions while an NCO's is to ecxecute. The higher in rank you go the less involved with troops you will be and the more administrative your role becomes. You are pretty much staff when you get to Major and above. The exception to that is being a Chaplain of course. If you think that being an officer is what you want to be, then go for it!
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Would I be competitive for OCS?
Capt Daniel Goodman
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I tend to like chatting about this sort of thing though I obviously know little about pastoral care things or chaplaincy aspects that being said though you are I gather army I might suggest a few thoughts such as they are from what I have generally understood though that is very little chaplains typically if that is what you might be aiming for often go through an OIS type of program as opposed to an OCS per se often 6 wks rather than 12 wks of course if you want some other line-type branch in whatever service then I'd expect that the normal OCS duration of 3 months Might be what you'd likely need to expect I did army rotc 3 yrs at a school in Brooklyn at a program that no longer exists then couldn't get into ft Bragg where the summer camp was and so went USAF ots in 79 at lackland in San Antonio where it was before now being at Maxwell in Alabama where I had to be recycled once to actually get through it OIS Indoc type programs are frequently for clinical legal chaplain or other specialized personnel as I said I'd known of I actually was in a grad school program some years later with a usn OIS grad who wore his class t shirt all the time so he and I would yak about it a good deal he was in a specialized instructor slot while navy that used OIS as its pipeline that's why he'd been through it though when I'd been at OTS one guy wore navy enlisted Dolphins so I knew of many who crossed over intrrservice depending on what service or work type you'd want there's also usmc platoon leaders corp (Plc) not an OCS though just s thought that might not have occurred to you though I'm not sure hoe long it lasts my mother in laws best high school friends son and I had been yakking at her birthday party with my wife he'd been army enlisted then went rotary wing flight through the WOCS at ft Rucker he never got deployed I understood thoug he then did jus bachelors in aviation through embry riddle and inter serviced to uscg which agreed to pick him up if army would release him so he finished out his 20 yrs with them as a rotary wing mission commander doing some neat stuff which while likely not your purpose I merely relate by way of illustration that was all look especially at the website for the OCS foundation s really good site for forums for the five normal services if you've any clinical thoughts look also at the usphs commissioned corps programs which often have higher age limits and if science look at the NOAA commissioned corps you could also try for a natl guard OCS as well or one of the other service warrant programs navy has the limited duty officer (LDO) program though you have to be pretty senior to get that o just mention it as not many know about it there's also AGR or guard or reserve tech spots if you want to try for dysl civil service drilling guard double dip retirement programs if heard of just s thought hope you find some of this of use if you'd card to elaborate more on your ultimate ambitions background hobbies etc I'd certainly be most eager to have a chance to chat further by all means anytime of course obviously as well
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COL Health Services Plans, Ops, Intelligence, Security,Training
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I applied as a specialist with just 9 months TIS. Never hurts to try!
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SPC Kevin Boothby
SPC Kevin Boothby
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I agree, the only way to know if I will get selected is to try!
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If you think you're up to it then go ahead and apply. The Army is looking for leaders and those that stand above the status quo. Half of my class was prior service enlisted (myself included) and we had everyone from former PFC's all the way up to SFC's. We had a prior service SSG drop because he didn't like being treated like PVT again (his words). OCS is demanding but it all depends on the individual.

PT and GPA are important but that won't carry you. I saw a graduate of a top university (who has a patent on some high speed medical device) completely freeze on the STX lanes. He was intelligent and physically fit but couldn't make a decision when push came to shove. Needless to say he didn't make it because, again, the Army is looking for leaders who will make decisions under pressure. Also, you don't always have to be right, but you better know when to own up and admit your mistakes.

The advice from others in this thread is good. Go above what is asked of you. I caution you though, being an officer comes with a lot of responsibility. Please make sure you want to do the job, as opposed to just receiving a boost in pay rate, or have to be saluted. If you commission and stroll up to your new unit with an attitude your NCO's will eat you alive, and your soldiers will see through your BS almost immediately. Trust them, and their experience.

To prep, study land nav, the TLP's, OPORD's, and WARNO's. If you have any questions please feel free to DM me. Best of luck to you.
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SPC Kevin Boothby
SPC Kevin Boothby
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I appreciate your input. I am certainly up to the challenge to be an officer. The reason I would like to be an officer is because it honestly just seems to be a better fit for me than the enlisted side of things. It seems to be more challenging and competitive, which I think I would like in a career as opposed to just waiting to retire. But I won't lie, the pay raise definitely makes it more desirable both for my family and myself. Thank you for the advice and your input!
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LTC Daniel Rogne
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Take the shot and go for it. Make sure to get the maximum amount of letters of recommendation as the minimum may communicate that you are willing to do minimal things. In this case more is better.
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SPC Kevin Boothby
SPC Kevin Boothby
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Thank your for this advice. I had not really thought of that, but it does make sense. If they see me doing the minimum for my packet, I probably would not get selected.
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Leadership experience is a plus when applying for OCS. You need to get your PT score as high as possible and keep applying. Get great recommendations as well from LTC and above. It took me many failed attempts before I got into OCS so be prepared to keep trying. Hopefully, you will get accepted the first time.
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SPC Kevin Boothby
SPC Kevin Boothby
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Thank you for your encouragement. I was unaware I could keep trying, I bet many people only try once and just give up. I do have to get my PT score up, as well as my weapons qual (I shot 34 a couple of days ago). Would BLC and correspondence courses help me in this? Thank you again for your response!
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I think leadership experience really matters. You are right that a lot of individuals try once and then quit. The many times I failed to qualify for OCS was down to S1 personnel not knowing what they were doing and medical issues that needed to be resolved. Be prepared to type those memos that you will need yourself since you don't dare depend on your command for that, you are not the priority. For those memos get familiar with AR25-50.
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CPT Anthony Kennedy
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Apply apply and keep applying g till you get in
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SPC Kevin Boothby
SPC Kevin Boothby
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Thank you. I do plan on enrolling in grad school for this fall; hopefully that will make me more competitive.
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I've got a few questions for you:

Are you AD? I'm guessing you are based on your duty station. On that premise, OCS is very competitive to get into from what I understand for you AD folks. However, I would apply, apply, apply...as CPT Kennedy stated below.

Based on your current degree are you looking to join as a Chaplain?
If so, I believe you need a masters degree equivalent / attended seminary before being eligible for that but I would check that. If you are planning on going as a Chaplain you complete a totally different OCS course then what all eventual "General Branch" officers attend.

We need leaders like yourself in today's Army, your time in uniform & experience is going to be very valuable to all the 09S that come to OCS straight from Basic. You've got the motivation so either way you're already light years ahead of most folks. Best of luck and if you do get into OCS....BEWARE the history test!
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SPC Kevin Boothby
SPC Kevin Boothby
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I am active duty; I came in in 2012. I chose my degree because it is what I am interested in learning. The original intent of this degree was to be in some type of ministry; however I have heard that the Army doesn't necessarily care about what the degree is in so I decided to keep my major. I plan on enrolling in grad school this fall, I am unsure exactly what I would (or what the Army would like) by graduate degree to be in. originally intended to come back in as a chaplain, but I would have to leave active duty a number of years in order to do that, which I am not really interested in doing. Thank you for your response and input!
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My last 10 cents: If your remotely interested in Cyber Security / Information Assurance I would look into that as that would set you up for the new Cyber Branch. Either way, best of luck!
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