Posted on Jul 7, 2017
Would you look down on someone who hasn't deployed?
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In a critical career field that constantly deploys I do. Having been Security Forces in the AF we are always going somewhere. Having deployed to Camp Bucca, Iraq back to back and looking at a possible 3rd trip back I was criticized because maybe 2 was enuff to that dump. While their were some that did everything they could to get out of it and did. Those that are willing to sell out others and break them and yet do nothing but sit back and make rank by stroking off the superiors gets old and infuriating.
Now health issues are one thing but lazy and an ass kisser are quite another. I deployed 6 times while many never did. No wonder the career field is suffering, breaking and losing the good ones
Now health issues are one thing but lazy and an ass kisser are quite another. I deployed 6 times while many never did. No wonder the career field is suffering, breaking and losing the good ones
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Nope! There were times where I wished I could’ve deployed more but just didn’t get the opportunity. The ones I am disappointed in are the ones that dodge deployment. Deploying gives you the opportunity to displays your full potential of your duties.
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For me, that always depended on three things:
Branch of Service
Rating / MOS
Time served
Here's why:
There are various different deployment requirements for the different services. As the joke goes, the Air Force is the branch for the smartest enlisted; in all other branches, the officers send us out to die, and stay behind the line. In the Air Force, the enlisted send the officers out to die (fixing their equipment so they can send them back out) over and over, while *they* stay back behind the line.
Rating / MOS - in the Navy, I was a Boatswain's Mate... that's pretty much akin to a grunt in our shorebound brothers. My first Master Chief put it like this, "Sailors were meant to be on ships, ships were meant to be at sea. There's no finer Sailor than a Boatswain's Mate."
While there are some jobs in the Navy that aren't expected to deploy, the overall majority do have a place on a ship. And, some of those that can't find an empty rack on a ship still deploy (SeaBees, for example).
Time served: I can appreciate someone who intended a far different path, then wound up as an undesignated Sailor being sent to a ship after 2 years of school (for example). Let's say that ship just got back from deployment when the newby reports aboard. Now, the ship heads to the yards ... and, the Sailor winds up being in the Navy, undesignated in Deck department, has technically been a Sailor for 4 years, and has never even done a one-week cruise. I can accept him without any ill-will.
But, if you've got an E6 Boatswain's Mate with 12 years in, who was always able to avoid deploying ... no. He'll get no love or respect from me. Sailors were meant to be on ships, ships were meant to be at sea.
Branch of Service
Rating / MOS
Time served
Here's why:
There are various different deployment requirements for the different services. As the joke goes, the Air Force is the branch for the smartest enlisted; in all other branches, the officers send us out to die, and stay behind the line. In the Air Force, the enlisted send the officers out to die (fixing their equipment so they can send them back out) over and over, while *they* stay back behind the line.
Rating / MOS - in the Navy, I was a Boatswain's Mate... that's pretty much akin to a grunt in our shorebound brothers. My first Master Chief put it like this, "Sailors were meant to be on ships, ships were meant to be at sea. There's no finer Sailor than a Boatswain's Mate."
While there are some jobs in the Navy that aren't expected to deploy, the overall majority do have a place on a ship. And, some of those that can't find an empty rack on a ship still deploy (SeaBees, for example).
Time served: I can appreciate someone who intended a far different path, then wound up as an undesignated Sailor being sent to a ship after 2 years of school (for example). Let's say that ship just got back from deployment when the newby reports aboard. Now, the ship heads to the yards ... and, the Sailor winds up being in the Navy, undesignated in Deck department, has technically been a Sailor for 4 years, and has never even done a one-week cruise. I can accept him without any ill-will.
But, if you've got an E6 Boatswain's Mate with 12 years in, who was always able to avoid deploying ... no. He'll get no love or respect from me. Sailors were meant to be on ships, ships were meant to be at sea.
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Your serving your country, have always believed that not everyone who serves need be in combat there's always enough work to go round and someone needs to do it.
I severed in the Army for 7+ years originally got draft notice in the little brown envelope like millions of others. Made a decision to go ahead and serve. Deployed to Vietnam right after "AIT" and Gunner training. Did what was asked and still breathing. Its all good, God's got this.
I severed in the Army for 7+ years originally got draft notice in the little brown envelope like millions of others. Made a decision to go ahead and serve. Deployed to Vietnam right after "AIT" and Gunner training. Did what was asked and still breathing. Its all good, God's got this.
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I served with the 101st airborne in Kentucky for 2 years and in Vietnam for one year. I respect anyone who served in the states in a combat area. We all do our part and often we go where Uncle Sam wants you to go. The majority who serve over seas are in support groups who never fire a shot. I was in the signal Corp and never did see combat. I often think I should have transferred to a combat unit but never did. Thanks for serving wherever you were.
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Just because someone hasn't deployed doesn't mean they weren't prepared to do so. As an ARNG retiree, I have come across many in the CMF11 with one or no deployments, as well as some from fields such as 12, 31 and 60 with multiple deployments. As a life member of both ROA and MOAA, I've come across many from both the the USAR and NG (and USNR/USAFR-ANG/USMCR) who have fallen into these categories. And more than a few who have volunteered for multiple deployments.
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No I am not going to look down on someone who signed up to go into the military. I spent 20 years in The Navy. Compared to some I know I didn't have as many deployments as some with less years. Choose your rate you choose your fate. Words to live by.
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NO MORE THAN I LOOK DOWN ON TRUMP FOR PAYING A DOCTOR TO AVOID VIETNAM. WHEN ASKED TO SERVE.
THEY JOINED AND SHOULD SERVE. I WANT TO RESTART THE DRAFT BUT ALLOW THOSE WHO HAVE REASONS, FEAR, PERSONAL RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, OR SCHOOL, TO SERVE AT LEAST 2 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING TO DO FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEIR PAY SHOULD BE SAME AS MILITARY.
THEY JOINED AND SHOULD SERVE. I WANT TO RESTART THE DRAFT BUT ALLOW THOSE WHO HAVE REASONS, FEAR, PERSONAL RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, OR SCHOOL, TO SERVE AT LEAST 2 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING TO DO FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEIR PAY SHOULD BE SAME AS MILITARY.
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I have no problem with SM’s who have not deployed, it’s basically a luck (or unluck) of the draw. But if your that guy walking around like a “been there done that” , until deployment time then tries to duck and run, well that’s the guy I have a problem with.
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I would never look down on soldier for not deploying... first off the Department of Army has all our numbers so if you are picked then you go... but for sure everyone can not deploy cause there has to be personnel back to support the fight...
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