Posted on Aug 14, 2014
You are the BN Commander: a spouse who turns in a video of her husband (one of your junior officers) having sex with a civilian. Actions?
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You have a spouse who turns in a video of her husband (one of your junior officers) having sex with a civilian. She just found the video saved on his phone and before speaking to anyone just bought the phone up to staff duty which has now made it on your desk.
You look at the video, you determine it is one of your leaders in the video. You start the proper paperwork and a couple of days later the packet it at legal getting looked over, checked out, crossing the Ts and dotting the Is.
A few days before you get the packet back the spouse come to see you on open door policy. She sits in your office and explains that she reacted off of emotion and still loves her husband. They are currently set up to attend marriage counseling and that she wants her marriage to work. She regrets turning in the phone with the video on it and doesnt want to ruin her husbands career or put the family in a financial bind.
What actions would you take?
You look at the video, you determine it is one of your leaders in the video. You start the proper paperwork and a couple of days later the packet it at legal getting looked over, checked out, crossing the Ts and dotting the Is.
A few days before you get the packet back the spouse come to see you on open door policy. She sits in your office and explains that she reacted off of emotion and still loves her husband. They are currently set up to attend marriage counseling and that she wants her marriage to work. She regrets turning in the phone with the video on it and doesnt want to ruin her husbands career or put the family in a financial bind.
What actions would you take?
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Regrettably, the missile has left the silo with no way to recall or self destruct.
The spouse let the cat out of the bag and no amount if remorse gets it back.
Maybe something can be done about the marriage but the career is ending.
The spouse let the cat out of the bag and no amount if remorse gets it back.
Maybe something can be done about the marriage but the career is ending.
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CPT Rose, I was really thinking lack of recall inherent in any strategic missile launch . . . no allusion to anything else intended . . . Oy, boys and their toys!!! Warmest Regards, Sandy
SPC David S.
Excellent euphemism intentional or not!
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PO2 Harold Ashton
Missile launch? Aren't you being a bit porno?
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Once it is at JAG, you won't be able to stop it but everything that she told you on visit 2 can be used during the sentencing phase to show movement to corrective counseling and actions. As the Commander, you are allowed to speak regarding his history with you both before and after the incident.
The JAG process should have been explained to her on the first visit.
The JAG process should have been explained to her on the first visit.
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SSG David Lewis
Having been enlisted, I'm pretty familiar with who can punish who-Company level, BN level, etc...I'm thinking that Officers don't get non-judicial punishment from a LTC....seems to me, that an Article 32 investigation is followed by some type of Court Martial for officers...BN Cmdr has some leverage, but he doesn't decide...is this correct?
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COL Randall C.
SSG David Lewis, SSG Joaquin Goicoechea is correct regarding NJP. For a Courts Martial, there are three types (summary, special, and general) of which summary are for non-capital offences and only for enlisted.
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Correct. If a LT is facing UCMJ, we will most likely be seeing the Commanding General. It's different in every Division, but that's the way it is here. Bottom line, you politely explain to the spouse the legal circumstances. Not much else to do. That LT will likely receive a show-cause board to determine if he's going to get thrown out (which he will) and what kind of discharge he will receive.
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COL William Oseles
Once she turned it over to the BN CDR his career is toast even if the charges are not followed through on.
If it is an officer that is conduct unbecoming he is done. Cannot under that.
If it is an officer that is conduct unbecoming he is done. Cannot under that.
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Once official action has begun and other authorities are notified such as JAG, you can't stop that ball from rolling. BLUF, that officer committed a UCMJ punishable offense and should face the wrath of the military justice system in order to promote good order and discipline. However, commanders have great authority and leeway to say yay or nay. At the end of the day he/she can decide to go full on or just make a big slap to the wrist (i.e. OER evaluation, OMPF MFR, negative counselings) essentially ending that officers career early. As long as good order and discipline is not adversely affected and that officer is held to the standard that he/she should be conducting themselves in the proper manner.
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