Posted on Apr 14, 2016
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Let's say you have worked with this Service-member in the past and know for certain that he/she has never seen combat and has been on a "walking" profile since being an E4 or below. The Service-member is competent, but openly boasts that they will get "their due".
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SFC Shane Funkhouser
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I have a messed up back and neck I've had surgery on both, I qualify for a disabled plate but have never bothered to get one. There are days I can barely walk but I do exercise as much and as vigorously as I can to try to keep the strength up in my back and neck because when I don't the pain is much worse. I realize that many sham the system but not everyone who exercises are one of those. Of course his comments would lead me to believe he is.
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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I think I will address the last line about "getting their due".
I see a lot in my capacity as a VA employee. There are claims that are completely obvious that they are fraudulent or exaggerated, and others that are more subtle and require development and sleuthing to determine whether or not they are eligible. The saddest ones are the claims filed by widows who have been told war stories by their spouse for years and come to find out that it is all BS when the VA finds out and presents why they were denied.
But what does happen is a fairly extensive physical (or mental, etc) assessment, along with a review of military documents to determine if:
A. The issue(s) they are claiming are really present
B. Whether the issues are permanent or temporary
C. That they in fact incurred the condition while on Active Duty

If A and C are met, they will get compensation. If not, they won't. Issues deemed temporary get periodic reviews in order to ascertain progress or worsening of the rated condition.

If this guy has the plates/placards saying he is handicapped, then he proved to the state that he meets the requirements for handicapped parking privileges.
If he is boasting about how he is going to "get his", he is a tool.
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SSG Ralph Watkins
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Army sure has changed. On a profile since he was an E-4? How'd he ever get promoted. Seen my share of people when I was in get an injury or illness, get a profile, & couldn't make rank. Can't pass the PT test, no promotion. If he had a profile & still did passed the PT test anyways, then that profile was invalided by his own actions. I've had someone like this sent to me as a replacement in Iraq. Total slug. He had so many issues he could not wear his IBA & helmet. When we shipped him back out after 3 weeks, he had no problems lugging all of his gear all on his own. Hate using names but that is just being a slug.
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SGT Sunny Lalingua
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SSG...Funny you should mention profiles and promotions in the same response. Here is a a solution that other allied militaries do when a service member of theirs is injured or needs profiled. As they have quoted," We retrain them in a new job that doesn't require them to pass a PT test of the same variation as fighting troops." I work with International military personnel every day and have done so for the past 11 years. I honestly think their militaries might be on to something. Granted, our allied military members serve "for life"; meaning, they expect to be about 55-60 before they retire but they also receive a hefty pension afterwards. Most are no longer conscripted but they go in with eyes wide open that it is a "lifetime" commitment. Some of these guys get retrained into 5-6 different variations of their fields over the years. But profiled and still promoted? It makes no difference, they find a use for them. I kinda like that. I might have been able to serve my full 20 if our military wouldn't have been so gung-ho as to say, "oooohh, can't run?, gee, gotta let ya go, Buh by!" DX'd at 10 years now I have 80% disability and 2 titanium knees. Had they retrained me they would have had some damn good soldier rocking their offices in DC or somewhere nondeployable.
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SSG Section Sergeant
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While picking your battles is a valid option, you also have others IF you know what his "disability" is. If he has some sort of back injury and he is doing intense back workouts you can film him and contact whoever he has his disability with and give the video to them. It all depends on how much time you have and how much this truly bothers you or affects you day to day life.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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I don't understand the getting their due part.
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SPC John Decker
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I would simply call the police.
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PO1 Cryptologic Technician (Technical)
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If this SM has been on a walking profile (given this might be a physical disability) before E4, why hasn't a medical board continued to investigate this? Given CrossFit does work other parts and helps alleviate any ailments pertaining to walking or running.
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You have a very good point and both you and I know about backlogs in the military. It could be that this SM fell through the cracks but with the command, wouldn't they a bit puzzled about the situation. I've never known anyone to have an issue like this so I'm ignorant to the fact. From my experience whenever someone is injured or recovering, the medial board is fully aware along with the CoC. They would have to go in front of a MEB every 30 days to check on the status of the SM with doctor notification if more time is need to recoup or that they were FFD.
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SFC Drill Sergeant
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This definitely hits home to most people because I know and have been around a lot of Soldiers that are close friends who feel the Army or Service it self owes them for minor to small injuries or stuff they know they can claim because "it's so easy" to claim. If you are hurt then you are hurt it very well maybe the Militarys fault but be an mature adult about it. If your back hurts or is messed up and you claim some disability off it then don't ride a 24k motorcycle that you used your claims to pay for. I don't know.... I feel in your situation I would feel compelled to tell my battle he/she is a douche.
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The incredulous looks should have been enough, but shouting "douche-bag" should work. lol
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SGT Sunny Lalingua
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In my experience, SSG, riding a motorcycle is excellent therapy for bad backs. All motorcycle vibrate, and with the exception of crotch rockets and other modified bikes, the riding position on a factory bike is an excellent position for relieving much pain. My truth through experience.
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i want to know why this sm has been on this profile e4 and below, who gave them this profile, and why. in the rc we have gotten many broken sm's from ac, that should'nt have been allowed, by med standards, ? recruiters?
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Visit Ft. Sam Houston's parking lots.
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SFC J Fullerton
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Can't blame the recruiters on this one. USAREC does not do IRR transfers from RA to USAR. That ended years ago. IRR transfers are under USARC jurisdiction. If they are Prior Service not in the IRR, going USAR, are otherwise qualified, then they are full process by USAREC and have to meet procurement standards on the physical, before they can enlist into a unit.
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SGT Thomas Carter
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Inform the chain of command.
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