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Posted on Apr 11, 2018
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COL Mo Fenner
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One scenario that this doesn't help is when a student already has a gun inside the school. You need a way to stop that too. It is a simple fix but not mentioned. I often point out to people that the existing gun laws are enough. They need to enforce those laws to include not selling weapons to those with mental illnesses. Spend the money to treat the illnesses before they become a problem. More people die every day from suicide than from murders.
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Sir, the intent would be to check everyone, every day. But I agree with you that current gun laws are adequate. My main point was to illustrate that "rules and regulations" can provide almost total protection, but the cost would be astronomical and any intelligent person could look at it and see that it's overkill. Peeling back layers means accepting risk. But we do that in every part of life. There should be no difference with schools.
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I'm not so sure that physical security measures are really in question. School buildings have existed longer than the prevalence of a motive for someone to bring a gun to school and shoot other people.
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PO3 Don Goracke
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Hire honorably discharged vets to defend again!
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SPC Timothy Steffen
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So lets start out by going after NRA and its members and Supporters and tax the snot out of them. If you need more then 1 Bullet to kill a Deer your doing it wrong. So why would anyone need a 100 round clip
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You might have a point if firearms were used for nothing but hunting deer. But target shooting is actually fun and requires a lot more ammo. As for the magazine capacity, if I thought that would stop mass shootings I'd jump on board with you. But it won't. And you can only assume that it will result in fewer casualties.
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1SG Michael Farrell
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I was asked once in my HR Guru role how to prevent harassment. Besides replacing people with robots, the only absolute solution I could come up with, and I did in fact give it some thought, was to have everybody -- EVERYBODY -- dress in Burkas, the ones with the cloth over the eyes and to minimize interaction between people to the largest extent possible. Told that was impossible, I said that so was the task. Let's redefine it.
I like the idea of focusing on the site and on the grounds. I also like the idea of school uniforms to preclude Piper and Pipette from wearing "tactical" pants and black raincoats with shotguns and AR15s concealed underneath. Realistically, reducing the number of rounds available without reloading will reduce the time the shooter is shooting while either attacking or defending him or herself. But, ultimately it comes down to resources. A platoon of Marine Embassy Guards was the norm for a long time; costs reduced that to a lot of outsourced or civilian employee security forces. Given my choice, no constraints, I want the platoon of jarheads as opposed to ACME Security Specialists or whomever. But, that's X number of war fighters at a lot more money than anyone wants to spend.
Same of course, with schools, perhaps to some absurd degree. But, I think the SWOT analysis (Strength/Weakness, Opportunity/Threat) analysis should definitely look at the school (or other target) from both the perspective of a likely attacker.
And then, figure out what priority socially and budgetarily you've got here and then do what needs to be done.
In other words, whether for schools, or embassies or military bases or our infrastructure, security needs more money spent wisely and fewer thoughts and prayers. Whenever I see the colors at half staff, I like to check immediately as to why. It's surprising how often it's not for anything militarily or historically related to the American experiment and it's protection, and how often to mourn the dead caused by another obsessive, spiteful and confused citizen.
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SFC Jim Dorsey
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Great story, we gotta harden the “target”. But we can’t fix the libs
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CMSgt Career Enlisted Aviator Cffm
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Spot on article on the school shooting issue in this country! Why is it that most countries have armed guards in the schools other than here in the gods old USA? Wake up folks, bad people are bad and we need to defend our prescious resource(children) from getting hurt!
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PO1 Tom Follis
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Agree with you 110%. Spent 5 years with military law enforcement and 11 years with ships security force. There are thousands of retired military out here with nothing to do and are very capable of providing security for schools. Guess protecting our schools and children aren’t really that high on the list of priorities.
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SFC Alan Candia
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Gun violence in schools may not be "controlled". Military bases have been attacked. Banks have been robbed. Prisons have riots. Stores get robbed. What do they all have in common...armed guards.
Signs, media, armed guards, armed teachers may deter a would be shooter, until they find an entry point which can be breached, or change their intended target.
Our kids need protection, and the answers may not be in safe rooms, buckets of rocks, bats, barricades, guns, training, police presence, or metal detectors...but something might save their lives.
The first thing to do right would be to tone down the media, stop the sensationalism of the massacres, and quit talking about gun control. Gun control discussions sparked a rush on purchasing guns and ammunition and acquiring licenses to carry.
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I agree that the media should be toned down but that would be asking them to make less money. I doubt that will happen any time soon.
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CPT Ricky Riley
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I like your thinking, see my comment on the previous article.
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