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Posted on Feb 16, 2016
SSG Lon Watson
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Apparently you never have been to FT Benning at Infantry OSUT.
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MCPO Rural Carrier Assistant
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Gabe, I was - E/7/1, 1981. It was DAMNED hard - but nothing compared to what Marines go through.
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LTC Michael Parker
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MCPO (Join to see) - A-1-1, 1981.
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Fort Benning for anything*
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SPC Jerry Jones
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From what I have seen, Marines go through the roughest boot camp, but back when I entered the Army and went through boot camp (1983) at Fort Jackson, SC, it was no walk in the park. They hit us hard from day 1 and never let up until we graduated. It seems these days it's more lax, but my boot camp was no pat on the back or comforting jib-jab to get me through. I don't know how lame boot camp for the Army is these days, but looking at YouTube videos from current Army, it looks like they are coddled and hand-held through a lot. I never saw that during my entire 7 1/2 year enlistment. You may be right about the Army with today's current standards, but back in my enlistment days, it was all "Your momma aint here no more. Suck it up recruit."
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I like the essay length comparison on us and the Marine Corp. I like your call to action, we can always be harder and examine our culture for its weak spots. I would provide this to counter balance:
188,800 - Marine Corp Strength
490,000 - Army End Strength
348,000 - Army Guard Strength
198,000 - Army Reserve Strength
+/- a few thousand depending on what year you are talking but the Total Army is close to a million people. Not sure your going to find that many people that want to be birthed in a 56 hour hell week.

A Guardsman is made in 9 weeks of basic training and given 4 months of prep and a mob site refresher the citizen Soldier is ready to deploy. Guard units do well enough that the new Chief of Staff of the Army says in public that America will never go to war without the Guard again.

I'd also say that what you want costs some money. 546,000 Reserve Component soldiers...who all go to the same Army Basic training... costs some cash. Thats transparent to the Active Duty Soldier who is getting paid a salary 24/7 but we get to paying extra for all of those RC soldiers to be on orders- a 9 week basic training is just fine. An additional 4 weeks of training for ~50,000 RC troops going to basic every year would be about a $75 Million dollar price tag in base salary alone ($1566 for an E-1 per month).

I would propose that our roots are more good ol' boy farmer willing to pick up a gun than Spartan. The Army is a wide cross section of the population it defends. The Marine Corp is a special subset of people willing to be indoctrinated into that culture.

P.S. Marines are cool and i like what you write here despite my counter statements above.
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good points, Marines also do it on the cheap. Does the Army really need all those different uniforms and accessories? Does every piece of gear have to match the cammo pattern? A soldier and his rifle is all the Army needs. Not a ton of officers or staff NCO's.
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MSgt Roger Settlemyer
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That right the Marines are about 10% Total Strength of the Armed Forces. Every Marine is trained as a Rifleman, My best friend was trained as a Electronics Tech on aircraft but spend a tour in Vietnam as a Grunt.
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Exactly, I am prior service AF and when I was looking to switching to JAG in law school I looked at every branch except the Marines...why because every Marine is a rifleman first...That is not what I wanted ( If I was going to do that shit I would have done it when I was 20). Do I think all the services could use more workable combat training YES. All my training comes from Krav, obtained outside of my work as a hobby but each branch has their skill set, Marines are damn useful but it takes a unique mindset that would not be an asset in every environment.
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Cpl Clinton Britt
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Thank you Sir. Yall can be pretty cool to
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I'm pretty sure every former Marine wearing an Army uniform just leaned back and said "FINALLY! Someone said it!".
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FU_K the marines.They have REMF's as well.There tours average 6 months. Mine are 13 to 16 average.And they need to get out of my ARMY.
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Cpl Earl Armstrong
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SFC (Join to see) the difference between a REMF in the Army and the USMC is attitude. For 4 years in the Corps I was reminded that I was a grunt who had the privilege of working on trucks so I was forced to learn combat skills. Fast forward I joined the Army reserve and was informed by a Staff Sgt he didn’t need to know basic skills like navigating by compass and map because he was an engineer and not a leader of troops.
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LCpl Darrell J. Farley Jr.
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SFC (Join to see) WOW, the butt hurt is strong in this one!!! Again the Army has a shit ton of personnel to rotate through country and can afford to leave your personnel longer! You also don’t have to go stateside after deployment and get ready to leave 2-3 months later for a six month WESTPAC or a MEDCRUISE, then go on a UNITAS Deployment. Then there is that fun Battalion Rotation to Okinawa or the rotation to Darwin! Your 12 months in country may come every 3 years, Marines average 18-24 months deployed out of 3. Marines leave the Corps for the Army (and occasionally the Navy) because of Deployment schedules and stress on family. Plus some MOS’s in the Army promote faster than similar in theMarines, or a career field that isn’t open to Marines. One thing the Army and Marines have in common, the Air Farce doesn’t like taking either with prior service!
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I've never met a Marine who's told me "I almost joined the Army..."
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