Posted on May 17, 2021
Congress, court weigh requiring females to register for the draft
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The year after the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979, President Jimmy Carter issued an executive order reinstating the requirement that men turning age 18 register for the Selective Service System and keep this information updated through age 25. At the time, Carter also said Congress should amend the Military Selective Service Act (MSSA) to include women in this process.
The law didn’t change, and still only men must register for the draft, which the nation has not had since 1973. And in the 40-plus years since Carter’s order, the now all-volunteer military force has evolved in important ways.
Females now make up nearly 17.4% of the active duty force. The most recent Department of Defense (DOD) data shows that of the 1,349,826 individuals serving in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force, 234,685 are women. In the post-Sept. 11, 2001, wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, in particular, more women served in combat roles. In 2015, DOD formalized the full integration of women in the armed forces, including into combat roles.
Supreme Court petitioned these and other recent developments have renewed pressure on Congress and the White House to revisit the issue that Carter raised four decades ago.
The American Civil Liberties Union — in a petition filed on behalf of the National Coalition for Men and two males and backed by national women’s rights and legal organizations, female and LGBTQ military and Veterans’ groups, former military leaders and others — is arguing that the Supreme Court should hold that the sex-based registration system under the MSSA is unconstitutional under the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause. The ACLU is not, however, asking the court to require women to register for the Selective Service.
That recommendation was made by a commission Congress established to study the military Selective Service system and other aspects of public service.
Commission recommends expanding registration
“After extensive deliberations,” members of the 11-member National Commission on Military, National and Public Service said in a 255-page report published last March, “the Commission ultimately decided that all Americans, men and women, should be required to register for Selective Service and be prepared to serve in the event a draft is enacted by Congress and the President.”
Debra Wada, who served as the commission’s vice chair for military service, said the commission came to this conclusion after finding that women applicants for military service qualify at about the same rate as men and shouldn’t mobilize for a crisis without the skillsets of roughly half its population.
Wada, a former assistant secretary of the Army for Manpower and Reserve Affairs, testified in March before the Senate Armed Services Committee about this and the commission’s many other recommendations to improve the military and national service system. Members of the commission are expected to testify before the House Armed Services Committee this month.
In addition to including women, the commission recommended that policymakers take steps to make the military Selective Service fairer and more transparent so registrants understand their service obligations. Wada said the panel found that the largely automatic system of registration has led to some not knowing what it’s for. More than half of 16- to 24-year-olds surveyed by DOD in 2019 weren’t aware the military Selective Service is to draft forces during a national crisis, the commission found.
Given that lawmakers are studying these issues, the Biden administration is asking that the Supreme Court deny the ACLU’s petition. No action would let stand a 1981 decision in Rostker v. Goldberg upholding the men-only registration system under the MSSA.
Preferring to let the legislative branch decide the issue, President Joe Biden’s Acting Solicitor General Elizabeth B. Prelogar told the court in her brief that “Congress’s attention to the question may soon eliminate any need for the Court to grapple with that constitutional question.”
Lawmakers propose scrapping whole system
One bipartisan group of lawmakers would grapple with the question by scrapping the military Selective Service system, viewing it as costly and unnecessary given the nation’s reliance on an all-volunteer military.
Sens. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Reps. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., and Rodney Davis, R-Ill., introduced bills (S. 1139/H.R. 2509) last month to phase out the Office of Selective Service Records, saying it requires $25 million annually to ready the nation for a draft that hasn’t occurred in almost 50 years.
“I’ve long stated that if a war is worth fighting, Congress will vote to declare it and people will volunteer,” Paul said in a statement.
History doesn’t bear this out, countered Wada. Even the military enlistment surge in the post-9/11 period, she noted, eventually waned. The military Selective Service — expanded to include women — is still the fairest and most equitable way for the nation to quickly assemble the skilled personnel needed in a crisis.
Learn more
Read about the Selective Service System: https://rly.pt/3ftAOPh
Read Sen. Wyden’s news release: https://rly.pt/3eVUfkQ
Read the petitions to the Supreme Court in National Coalition for Men v. Selective Service System: https://rly.pt/3fnZmJj
Read the National Commission on Military, National and Public Service final report, Inspired to Serve: https://rly.pt/3eQXBFA
Watch the commission present its findings to the Senate Armed Services Committee on March 11: https://rly.pt/3eUnrIL
The law didn’t change, and still only men must register for the draft, which the nation has not had since 1973. And in the 40-plus years since Carter’s order, the now all-volunteer military force has evolved in important ways.
Females now make up nearly 17.4% of the active duty force. The most recent Department of Defense (DOD) data shows that of the 1,349,826 individuals serving in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force, 234,685 are women. In the post-Sept. 11, 2001, wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, in particular, more women served in combat roles. In 2015, DOD formalized the full integration of women in the armed forces, including into combat roles.
Supreme Court petitioned these and other recent developments have renewed pressure on Congress and the White House to revisit the issue that Carter raised four decades ago.
The American Civil Liberties Union — in a petition filed on behalf of the National Coalition for Men and two males and backed by national women’s rights and legal organizations, female and LGBTQ military and Veterans’ groups, former military leaders and others — is arguing that the Supreme Court should hold that the sex-based registration system under the MSSA is unconstitutional under the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause. The ACLU is not, however, asking the court to require women to register for the Selective Service.
That recommendation was made by a commission Congress established to study the military Selective Service system and other aspects of public service.
Commission recommends expanding registration
“After extensive deliberations,” members of the 11-member National Commission on Military, National and Public Service said in a 255-page report published last March, “the Commission ultimately decided that all Americans, men and women, should be required to register for Selective Service and be prepared to serve in the event a draft is enacted by Congress and the President.”
Debra Wada, who served as the commission’s vice chair for military service, said the commission came to this conclusion after finding that women applicants for military service qualify at about the same rate as men and shouldn’t mobilize for a crisis without the skillsets of roughly half its population.
Wada, a former assistant secretary of the Army for Manpower and Reserve Affairs, testified in March before the Senate Armed Services Committee about this and the commission’s many other recommendations to improve the military and national service system. Members of the commission are expected to testify before the House Armed Services Committee this month.
In addition to including women, the commission recommended that policymakers take steps to make the military Selective Service fairer and more transparent so registrants understand their service obligations. Wada said the panel found that the largely automatic system of registration has led to some not knowing what it’s for. More than half of 16- to 24-year-olds surveyed by DOD in 2019 weren’t aware the military Selective Service is to draft forces during a national crisis, the commission found.
Given that lawmakers are studying these issues, the Biden administration is asking that the Supreme Court deny the ACLU’s petition. No action would let stand a 1981 decision in Rostker v. Goldberg upholding the men-only registration system under the MSSA.
Preferring to let the legislative branch decide the issue, President Joe Biden’s Acting Solicitor General Elizabeth B. Prelogar told the court in her brief that “Congress’s attention to the question may soon eliminate any need for the Court to grapple with that constitutional question.”
Lawmakers propose scrapping whole system
One bipartisan group of lawmakers would grapple with the question by scrapping the military Selective Service system, viewing it as costly and unnecessary given the nation’s reliance on an all-volunteer military.
Sens. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Reps. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., and Rodney Davis, R-Ill., introduced bills (S. 1139/H.R. 2509) last month to phase out the Office of Selective Service Records, saying it requires $25 million annually to ready the nation for a draft that hasn’t occurred in almost 50 years.
“I’ve long stated that if a war is worth fighting, Congress will vote to declare it and people will volunteer,” Paul said in a statement.
History doesn’t bear this out, countered Wada. Even the military enlistment surge in the post-9/11 period, she noted, eventually waned. The military Selective Service — expanded to include women — is still the fairest and most equitable way for the nation to quickly assemble the skilled personnel needed in a crisis.
Learn more
Read about the Selective Service System: https://rly.pt/3ftAOPh
Read Sen. Wyden’s news release: https://rly.pt/3eVUfkQ
Read the petitions to the Supreme Court in National Coalition for Men v. Selective Service System: https://rly.pt/3fnZmJj
Read the National Commission on Military, National and Public Service final report, Inspired to Serve: https://rly.pt/3eQXBFA
Watch the commission present its findings to the Senate Armed Services Committee on March 11: https://rly.pt/3eUnrIL
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Seems kind of dumb not to have them register. Back when we last drafted there were few women in the military and none in combat positions. Today we have all that, so if we're going to keep a draft on the books it only makes sense to have everyone register when they turn 18.
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Yes. It should be done. I remember in the early 70s passing through a kegger room where a feminist was holding a rant about how equal she was. I shrugged and continued over to the keg to fill my stein. She called me out (3 males and a dozen women) and asked me what I thought about her statements.
I looked around at the many hostile stares and said, "I'm all for equality for women and I want you to know 20 minutes ago you also said that it isn't right for women to be drafted. That would be true equality. You can't demand it unless you're willing to fight in the military just like the men. Everyone have a mug'o'beer and cool off."
I looked around at the many hostile stares and said, "I'm all for equality for women and I want you to know 20 minutes ago you also said that it isn't right for women to be drafted. That would be true equality. You can't demand it unless you're willing to fight in the military just like the men. Everyone have a mug'o'beer and cool off."
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I see no problem.
Some countries require at least 2 years of service in some capacity and a high majority are better off after it. Considering the quality of who is in the military now and the younger groups this would affect leaving women out is just making things worse.
Some countries require at least 2 years of service in some capacity and a high majority are better off after it. Considering the quality of who is in the military now and the younger groups this would affect leaving women out is just making things worse.
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Good. I'm all about equality of opportunity.
But with this change to the Selective Service Act of 1917, they need to dramatically strengthen the penalties for those who do not register with Selective Service. This should minimally include denial of any sort of public assistance (food, health, or job); prevent holding of any government job; prevent holding any government contractor job; prevent any sort of student loan aid; and maybe even look at raising the tax rate to a special 50% rate for anyone who does not voluntarily register with Selective Service.
Everyone wants to enjoy the fruits of liberty, few are willing to put their arse on the line for that privilege. Time to make sure we all have some skin in the game.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
But with this change to the Selective Service Act of 1917, they need to dramatically strengthen the penalties for those who do not register with Selective Service. This should minimally include denial of any sort of public assistance (food, health, or job); prevent holding of any government job; prevent holding any government contractor job; prevent any sort of student loan aid; and maybe even look at raising the tax rate to a special 50% rate for anyone who does not voluntarily register with Selective Service.
Everyone wants to enjoy the fruits of liberty, few are willing to put their arse on the line for that privilege. Time to make sure we all have some skin in the game.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff I see where you are coming from on this but disagree, maybe only in how it is handled.
I don’t think there should be any waivers unless the person is mentally or physically disabled, like can’t walk or run, etc.
Does that mean everyone should be in the military complex no but there are other Civil Service Organizations that they could volunteer (or be drafted) into to Serve the Country’s needs and not the needs of their own bank accounts or their momma and daddy’s!
Personally I think EVERYONE that is physically and mentally able should spend the first two years (minimum) after High School Serving the Country in some form or fashion. If they want to fet out and go to College after that fine or do whatever. It’s amazing what training does to make a person grow up!!
And yes, if they keep the draft then EVERYONE should have to sign up for it. But I’ve said that since I had to sign up for it way back in the 70s.
I don’t think there should be any waivers unless the person is mentally or physically disabled, like can’t walk or run, etc.
Does that mean everyone should be in the military complex no but there are other Civil Service Organizations that they could volunteer (or be drafted) into to Serve the Country’s needs and not the needs of their own bank accounts or their momma and daddy’s!
Personally I think EVERYONE that is physically and mentally able should spend the first two years (minimum) after High School Serving the Country in some form or fashion. If they want to fet out and go to College after that fine or do whatever. It’s amazing what training does to make a person grow up!!
And yes, if they keep the draft then EVERYONE should have to sign up for it. But I’ve said that since I had to sign up for it way back in the 70s.
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If we want equal rights, it should come with equal responsibility as well.
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Either scrap it all together or make women have to register same as men. Simple. No need to complicate things.
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Yes, Women should be required to register for the draft... It's called equal rights Women fought for decades. Besides the draft should be expanded for ages 18 to 45 like it used to be also. After 2 years of active duty the 4 year requirement should also be in the Ready Reserve. Oh yes and NO DEFERMENTS like many political leaders of today got to dodge their duty during Viet Nam
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