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Posted on Oct 31, 2018
LTC Jason Mackay
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LTC Jason Mackay Colonel, this is one of the best articles that I have read in some time. Excellent work!
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CPO Nate S.
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LTC Jason Mackay EXCELLENT! You might get a former Enlisted to write something similar. Also, in today's military the number of Enlisted with degrees and some with advanced degrees is growing. I also think it is important to state that not all people want to go from Enlisted to Officer.

Many enlisted technicians today are seeking degrees and continuing to get advanced technical skills so they can file senior middle managers told where leadership is lacking, especially in the civilian community. Your thoughts!
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LTC Jason Mackay
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CPO Nate S. - not arguing that all enlisted with degrees pursue a commission. This was to answer the myriad of posts by Army Cadets seeking branch selection advice. Not everyone is cut out for or wants to pursue a commission, and that is OK.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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CPO Nate S. - if you have problems tagging a certain person, you can copy their link, then delete down to just the 5-6 digit number in the middle of the link and that exact tag should pop up.
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CPO Nate S.
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LTC Jason Mackay - Sir, Roger that. I agree, not all enlisted with a degree should or need to pursue a commission. Savvy technicians are also critical to unit success. Many of your same points about preferences are just as critical to enlisted personnel as they plan careers and in the end what they - really want. No worries, no worries!
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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This is awesome guidance. I liked the "Red Herring" topics -- so true! The "Cool Guy Schools" has so much sway over people, it's eye opening.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Thanks to @carlos madden and Ryan Callahan for helping me get this posted.
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Sir, would it be alright if I turn this into a word .doc and distribute it through our ROTC Battalion here at Wheaton College?
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LTC Jason Mackay
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1LT (Join to see) - message me through RP messages with your email address, I'll send it to you.
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How do I choose an Army Branch?: A Framework
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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For OTS, we were told, pick two and the third should be needs of the AF (which is the one you usually got)
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Lt Col Charlie Brown OCS has a different process, same “dream sheet”.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Was certainly the way one got assigned to an aircraft coming out of flight training.
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LTC G5 Plans
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Excellent article. This should be published in every ROTC BN website, FB, papers, everything. When I was an APMS, there were many "what if" questions that revolved around trying to game the system. Bottom line is: get as high on the OML as you can. In ROTC the big discriminator is GPA (or was when I was APMS). So make your selections and do your best.
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MAJ James Woods
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I believe your bottomline is needs of the Army. My advice to cadets has always been separate what you want to do as a career in the military from your post military career goals. I mean for some of us like myself that chose combat arms that made up 4 of 5 top choices understood that it didn’t correlate to civilian occupation outside of mid level and senior leadership/management/operations type positions. Then again I was one of those cadets that planned to serve 20 plus years, retire, never work again.
The premise of the overall accessions OML is indeed what I was briefed at both Camp All-American and by my PMS.
I did see my degree play more of a role in my functional area assessment considering they offered me an FA that was not on my list but did match my degree.
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LCDR Retired
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The needs of the service always take priority over the desires of the applicant.
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MAJ James Woods
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LCDR (Join to see) Yeah that’s also what I said so yeah I agree.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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I'll set the challenge down right here. Plenty of opportunity for Command Post input.
- How to choose an Army branch?: OCS version
- How to choose an Army branch?: USMA version
- How do sister services assign officers career fields?

Widen the lense:
- How do I choose an Armed Forces Branch to pursue a commission? (hint: you may want to read the Carl Builder book "Masks of War" and the seminal "Armed Forces Officer" originally written by SLAM.
- Which commissioning source should I pursue (OCS, DC, ROTC, Service Academy)?
- Do you know your service academies? (West Point, Annapolis, USAFA, USCG Academy, Kings Point)
- Which opportunities are available by component? (Army ROTC and the options for Reserve, ARNG, and AD programs)
- When to fish or cut bait?: when to pursue a commission as an enlisted service member

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Great article and recommendations. I would say the number one take away is to try to pick something you will enjoy and do well at. It doesn't matter if you do 8 years or 40 years, if you hate your job you will not be successful, and likely won't be successful in that field in the civilian sector afterwards either.
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Crowd sourcing information from internet trolls is a valid method though....
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LTC Jason Mackay
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LTC (Join to see) it’s a technique
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Epilogue: starting with the class of 2020, the Army is going to try the Market Model: https://www.army.mil/article/227124/assigning_branches_to_cadets_takes_on_new_system

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CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana
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Excellent share Colonel, Sir; extremely relevant information. Thanks.
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SPC David S.
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Great article As a former cadet who played football I can relate to this on many levels. I was 6'5" 260lbs and blind as a bat at 18 yet thought somehow I was going to be a fighter pilot via waivers. The moral of the story - not everyone has the skill set to be the quarterback nor does a team (the military) only need quarterbacks - team (military) needs fat ass linemen as well in order to move the ball down the field. Find your role and train and play your position/role well. Makes the game/career more enjoyable as well if you embrace your role.
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LTC Jason Mackay Thank you for the post!
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thank you for posting this article. These cadets are about to be leaders in the Army and cannot do simple research. I see all these cadets asking questions that can be answered through research. as a leader, I feel like you cannot always rely on others to answer your questions. You have to remember these cadets will make decisions for a whole platoon. I think more officers should try to shape them by telling them do their research first. I would ask my cadre members which branch I would excel at best and I gave them my top two options. I was stuck between wanting to do MI and MP. they are both completely different branches. the research and guidance from officers helped me to choose my top branch. I do not see a problem with asking questions, but I do think sometimes a leader should try to do research first.
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LTC Jason Mackay yes sir! I am only a cadet and I am annoyed by the amount of cadets ask the most simplest questions. I am agreeing with you that I think cadets need to start doing their own research. I am commissioning in a few weeks and I have not asked one question on this blog post.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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1LT (Join to see) yes we are in violent agreement (aka same point fratricide)
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1LT (Join to see) Best wishes on your upcoming commissioning.
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Sgt (Join to see) Thank you Mr. Hallock!
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SGT Tony Clifford
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I know that the army tries to put officers in units that match their education. Obviously this doesn't always happen, but they try to as it's typical a more logical way of using the talent available. Engineers tend to have a lot of physical science majors. One of my LTs was a geologist. Another was a mechanical engineer.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Then again, they don't. The Army paid to make me a Civil Engineer and branched me elsewhere. As I said in the article, it's not a 1:1 alignment.
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CPT Richard Riley
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Outstanding! Good basis for making decisions!
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CW3 Scott Castlen
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Good write up Sir.
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CW4 Craig Urban
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I could have been a sniper.
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SFC Scott Parkhurst
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Excellent article! A lot of work went into it and time and research...Thank you. I can only answer for myself as far as choosing an Army Branch. When I went in, I first wanted to score as high as I could on my ASVAB so I could choose any MOS I "hoped" to get. I wanted to get something that of course the Army needed but I also wanted to do something that my heart and mind wanted....and that I would be good at. I was a police officer and took a leave of absence for Desert Storm but I just didn't want to be an MP. I always wanted to be a Doctor so I choose to be a surgical tech. (field), and then became a combat medic and during my years in I picked up 5 other MOS's. Yes, I wanted to see action and gave all of myself to the Army as they paid into my training a lot! I can take all of that training into my civilian life as well. This is what I tell people what to consider before joining. I want to make sure that they're joining for all the right reasons and that their morel is up and they're happy with their MOS because they're going to have to be doing it for a bit. Unhappy Soldier's are not good for the Unit.
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MAJ Gregory Moon
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I’ll make it easy for some. If you have a CE,ME, EE degree you will be branched Engineer. The Army has never kept enough degreed Engineers in the system. The good news us unlike infantry you won’t have to get a secondary specialty. There’s more than enough broadening positions in Engineers.
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COL John McClellan
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Engineer branch was about 50% "hard" degrees in engineering-related fields when I commissioned in 1986; by 2009 when I was at FLW, that number was down to only 1/3 and was getting the attention of the Engineer Commandant - 2 or 3 in a row made getting more degree'ed engineers a priority with TRADOC > Cadet Command!
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MAJ Gregory Moon
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On going issue. I came in in 82 there was no choice not a problem for me, I retired out of an Engineer Facility Detachment this year. We really needed hard degrees and construction background and we never were able to find enough even on deployments.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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COL John McClellan - MAJ Gregory Moon Army ROTC Science and Engineering Scholarship- Check. Civil Engineering Degree- Check. Branched: Ordnance. First choice Engineer Branch...Whoops. A way to fix that is to make Industrial Engineering a track for Logistics Corps Officers, particularly Ordnance Officers. Test them for the FE, document the experience in a NCEES friendly manner, route them to periodic strategic level logistics assignments that aren't death sentences and prepare them for the PE exam.
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MAJ Gregory Moon
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HRC strikes again. In the reserves I ran into another officer that was a EE working for PG&E and he was in Movement Control Team. There were EFDs in California that he could have been with or even the prime power guys.
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