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Command Post What is this?
Posted on Oct 31, 2018
LTC Jason Mackay
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CPT Aaron Kletzing
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I really hope we get more Command Post articles from LTC Jason Mackay
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LTC Jason Mackay
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CPT Aaron Kletzing we'll see what strikes me as interesting or frustrating
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COL John McClellan
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There's a lot of good stuff in here, but what I always found most useful as a PMS when I spoke to accessions Seniors, and later when I started giving a similar briefing to MS Is and IIs, was a few of the slides available from Cadet Command on the Accessions Process, and, the recent stats. So: How big/small are the branches and how many will be selected? For the competitive branches - the average GPA of selectees in the past few years, and the average OML score; where is the "cut line" likely to be for active duty v. reserve forces > there use to be a chart on that as well. And then for certain branches, where your major might matter - Engineers, Signal, so forth - what kind of selection guidance was given to the accessions board on these. 3 or 4 simple charts that showed most college students -- look, you know where you are in this school and nationally in terms of OML and GPA; and you can see what your chances of success are at different branches.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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COL John McClellan is that briefing available by way of a link? I think it would add to the discussion. The stats will vary year to year, just like accessions targets.
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COL John McClellan
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LTC Jason Mackay - Not to me now, I'm out of the Army 4+ years and out of Cadet Command for 10+; but it was available to the Brigade Commander's and PMS's when I was a PMS in 2006-2008 timeframe. I'm sure there is something similar now, but it's Cadet Command FOUO I suspect.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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COL John McClellan - some mentioned this in passing during my research but could not articulate fully what all was in it. I think if PMSs are briefing this, then good on them. It is best delivered by them. This article grew out of seemingly endless Cadets seeking advice posts over the last 12-24 months
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CPT Flight Student
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Do you want to go combat arms, logistics, aviation? There are multiple branches but a lot of them can fit into a similar category. Once you find what you want to do, you can get more specific depending on what types of missions you would want to be accomplishing.
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LTC Board Of Directors Chairman
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Great article! I would like to collaborate with you on a few items not addressed in the initial offering. I recently served as a PMS and in an HBCU setting and gleaned some insights that may amplify the points and also add to the overall article. Let me know and if not requ st to use some of your material and cite this for an article I am working on :)

Thanks!
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LTC Jason Mackay
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LTC (Join to see) would be happy to share or help. Please do draft a sequel or branch article to this one. I wrote this hoping to spur discussion and allow others to get publication credit. This was not designed to be the final word. Some areas that I thought of but had to cut it off where I did: choosing the right Army component for you (AD, Res, ARNG), the Aviation junket, how do sister services decide career fields for officers, there may be things I just don't know to know. I a man certainly not all knowing.
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SGT Petroleum Heavy Vehicle Operator
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STEM degrees are the only degrees seen as worth getting to some people. Unless it’s one of those, I would just go with what interests you. For me it’s combat arms.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SGT (Join to see) what is your take on a STEM degree that advantages one to one branch or another? How is that different than doing what interests a person? In theory you pursue a degree that interests you.

STEM certainly has the lime light as the field is growing and has actual demand in the economy.
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A science degree would definitely assist someone in the medical corps and a mathematics degree could make someone better at logistics. How I feel a person looking to find the certain branch that they want is to think if they want the branch because of the accolades of the field (viewed by peers as having a “good” job), or do they want to be effective in the immediate vicinity, which is being in the army. LTC Jason Mackay
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LTC Jason Mackay
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SGT (Join to see) - industrial engineering would be a good match for logistics corps or a logistics degree. At no time in 22 years did I have to do more than multiply, divide, add, and subtract as Ordnance or Logistics. I did one statics calculation for a project I was given as a LT. My undergrad, Civil Engineering, came in handy working allied trades issues and when I was a Garrison Commander working milcon projects with USACE.

At no time would I have used differential equations, integrals, discrete structures etc that a Math degree would have entailed. one of the key differences between civilian and military logistics is that civilian logistics depends on low variability from stable networks, local optimization, and global optimization. Military logistics the network is not the same one minute to the next (deployed)....never mind optimization, local or otherwise. It favors effctiveness over efficiency and hueristic solutions. Means and modes in the military are much sexier than in commercial supply chains.
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Right on sir! LTC Jason Mackay
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Ken Kraetzer
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Spend a lot of time at West Point, does the same decision process work at Academy?
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Ken Kraetzer no. Short answer. Their class rank is a large determining factor. I'll leave it to a USMA grad to explain.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Ken Kraetzer this is part of it, predicated on class rank. https://youtu.be/EXFUd3T-Q8U
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LTC Jason Mackay
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Would also,like to thank SGT (Join to see) for wrangling Cadet input to this.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
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I still cannot figure out why anyone would want to branch something other than the Nurse Corps.
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MAJ Michael Cummings
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Great article.
I can remember doing my top 10 list.
My list, along with my thoughts, were as follows:
1) Signal Corp - go figure as an EE
2) Quarter Master - screw it, if I couldn't get signal I wanted to work with the logistical side
3) Armor - if I have to choose a combat arms branch in my top 3 I would rather walk then ride and artillery is not combat arms anyway they are support
4-10) Can't remember and doesn't matter

I was a 4yr ROTC scholarship student studying Electrical Engineering and scored in the top 10% at my ROTC Advanced Camp. Back then it was a 3,4,5 and I came out with a 4. I was a sure thing for active duty and all things pointed to me getting one of my top picks. Back then 4yr scholarship students were typically assessed to AD at about 75% rate.

WRONG!!!
The year I was assessed was on the back side of the Desert Shield/Storm military downturn and the 75% changed to about 10%. Not only was I NOT assessed to AD, I was sent to the National Guard as an Armor officer...YUCK!
Fast forward till now and I will have to say that I am sooooo thankful the Army sent me to Armor. I miss every day I spent on tanks. I also never had to deal with the issues of having mixed male/female units until waaayyy late in my career and boy what a headache that was.
No matter what an individual gets assessed, make the best of it. While at first it may not be anything that you want, it may be exactly what you need. Also, artillery is still support. Unless you can look them in the eyes and shoot them in the face, your support. I love all my military brothers and sisters though.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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Thanks for the good info
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