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Posted on Apr 27, 2016
LCDR Gerald Lowe
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SPC Rory J. Mattheisen
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Forget about the "transition' process, continue to adapt and overcome. Figure out if you are living your life or if you are reacting to it, and remember to be intentional about thinking decisions through for the first couple years. We get into the react/respond mindset during our time in service and have to re-learn to process life as it happens.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe
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Good points and appreciate your perspective especially on living and not reacting.
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SPC Rory J. Mattheisen
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I spent the better part of a decade out here drowning and having the "resources" that are available pour water on my face when I was able to breathe. I didn't know why everything was so jacked-up. Meds didn't help, therapy made it worse, everything fell apart and I ended up homeless. It turns out that when we react and respond to life we are stacking files on "the desk" and the longer we take to realize what is happening the bigger the stack gets. I have been taking each file as it needs to be opened and processing it completely for the last 2 years and today I have daily problems and it feels great.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe
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Rory, thanks. It takes courage to handle the problems as you have named them and I am humbled by your hard work and tenacity. Hang in there brother and let me know if I can ever help or support you in your walk. Gerald
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CPO Ronnie Townes
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After retiring, I knew I had to adjust my way of think of what I had been accustom too for over 20yrs. I also had to deal with the challenge for translating my military skills to the civilian world. And it's been a very eye opening experience since I've been in the corporate world.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe
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Chief, thanks and couldn't agree more. What is the best thing you have learned from the experience?
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CPO Ronnie Townes
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I think my greatest experience since being in the corporate world is seeing the difference in the corporate world system verses the structured systems we have in the military. In the military we have structure, in which some aspects we like or dislike, but we know how the structure flows. In the corporate world there's on set structure, it's all in who you know and if you're in that click it's every person for themselves. But I've been able to utilize the leaderships skills acquired from my service to make good adjustments.
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CPO Ronnie Townes
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LCDR Gerald Lowe - I think my greatest experience since being in the corporate world is seeing the difference in the corporate world system verses the structured systems we have in the military. In the military we have structure, in which some aspects we like or dislike, but we know how the structure flows. In the corporate world there's on set structure, it's all in who you know and if you're in that click it's every person for themselves. But I've been able to utilize the leaderships skills acquired from my service to make good adjustments.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe
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Chief, good points and highlights some of the challenges with transitioning. We all served for personal reasons, but, in my opinion, because we wanted to contribute and the people around us were of the same mindset. Keep pushing forward and showing others how to lead.
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since i left the millitary, my bosses recognized my abillities, my attention to detial, and work ethic i now work on special projects, as well as my normal job, it give me overtime that others dont get, they still dont get what i could do as a leader, but eventually they may
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LCDR Gerald Lowe
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Thanks for your feedback, MSG!
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just got done doing field day on house i'm single so it has to be done thats one of the things that came back with me
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Making Our Next Move: Thoughts on Transitioning to Civilian Life
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Great points!

Remember: You are human again. You have a first name, and you have the abilities to succeed. I got out in 2012, thought that I would easily get into a high paying job but I was wrong. I ended up going back to school and going to work full time. Now, I have a good paying job that supports my family and me.

Always remember to keep learning. Just as the military adapts to the times, so does the civilian sector. If you're in the tech industry, dont just settle on the compTIA certifications- go after Microsoft, Cisco, ETC. Dont EVER settle.

Also remember that even when the pressure of work gets to you, that you have experienced far worse. Think of your objectives and continue to think two steps ahead.
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If at all possible, start your own business.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe
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That is an aspiration. I'd be interested in hearing if you have any suggestions on starting a business.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe - Looks as if you are in the ideal position to get all the suggestions you need. Merely suggestions, Contract work as a writer, estimator, ,advertising, Operator was ideal for me. I was carrying 12" block on Saturdays at the age of 10 for my father( masonry ) and over the years learned to lay brick and block and the natural progression was carpentry and concrete work. After retirement from the Navy, I continued in the masonry business, small jobs, none that required more than a week to complete and my back and knees began to tell me to sit on my butt, so I taught myself to operate a front loader/backhoe, excavator and dozer. Bought a Bobcat and called the state to see what their requirements were. None required if I didn't contract anything over $50k. I like the solitude and never jerking the front wheels off the ground.
I see the employment and judging from that, you apparently have the credentials so go for it.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe
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Thanks for sharing. I'm always inspired by business owners who have made a go of it on their own. Your tenacity and drive is inspiring and much we could all learn from your experiences. Thanks again and all the best!
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LCDR Gerald Lowe - Most welcome!
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LCDR Gerald Lowe Sir, Being a planner is key when you transition. I transitioned in June 1972, and I knew that I would move to the Houston area, get a job, and start work on a degree. Once I had the degree, I would start work on the Space program. I found a good paying job while I worked on my degree. Once I had my degree, I started working on the Space Shuttle program. I had a plan in place that I executed.

After 33 years working on the Space Shuttle program, The program was ended after the last flight of Atlantis, in July, 2011. Years in advance, I knew the program was ending, and I made plans for that. Even with careful plans, emotionally, I was out of sorts for a couple of years. When you are totally invested in something that you believe in, it is a shock, when it is gone.

With any transition, what helps is to stay very busy with your new goals and objectives so you have less time to think about the past.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe
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Ted, thank you for your response and how planning helped guide you in after leaving the Marines. I'd enjoy hearing more about your time working on the shuttle program.
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LCDR Gerald Lowe - I worked at a chemical plant as a high paid operator while I worked on my degree. I took a pay cut when I changed industries. I started on the Space Shuttle program three years before the fist flight. During the final part of flight testing, the Space Shuttle Enterprise was mated to the top of a 747, carried to a launch altitude, before being jettisoned by the use of explosive bolts to glide to a landing on the runways at Edwards AFB. The Enterprise made five of these flights, with the intention being to test the flight characteristics of the orbiter itself, on a typical approach and landing profile from orbit. Space Shuttle Enterprise was constructed without engines or a functional heat shield, and was therefore not capable of spaceflight. The first launch of the Space Shuttle, Columbia, occurred on 12 April 1981. The 135th and last flight, Atlantis, launched on 8 July 2011, and landed on 21 July 2011. For me, the loss of Space Shuttles Challenger and Columbia were huge blows, which grounded the fleet for a combined five years. There were plenty of highs. I looked forward to each launch and mission, and was fortunate to work on my dream job.
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A friend in the Texas AG office shared there are many open positions.
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Cpl Carlos Fernandez
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In my experience the civilians need to transition to our way of life. There is absolutely no need for a military personnel to do any transitions as what we worked so hard for is in fact the correct way of living. Everything we trained for is for survival and civilian world needs some of what we know as survival. Because how I see it there is nothing wrong with our view point method of thinking other than to kill an opponent. We operate with true leadership, comaraderie, teamship, discipline, etc.... that's something the civilian population don't have. So do not transition to anything. Stay the way you are and set an example. You are the boss and a CEO would appreciate you more than the rest.
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SPC Sheila Lewis
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Just be prepared for things not going the way You previously imagined.
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