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Posted on Feb 27, 2015
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The Russians effectively fought the entirety of the cold war using this broad brush tactic. They knew we could out spend them on the technological front, so they basically masked their lack of money with a quantity of crude(albeit in some cases very effective)weaponry, aircraft and submarines. The Russians have always looked at themselves as having the NEED to defend themselves against three very large fronts to their homeland therefore using such tactics has enabled them to do so without the investment in an appropriate amount of troop strength. Cousin Vlad, is an ex-spook who REALLY likes the covert side of warfare. He LIKES the ability to infiltrate, execute, and extricate without PROOF of presence.
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Uncle Putin (as I like to refer to him) is also a judo expert. Judo principles include using maximum efficienty and minimum effort. I believe this also applies to Russia's current military doctrine to a certain extent. A weaker opponent can defeat a stronger one by avoiding the stronger opponents attacks and counterattacking. He definitely appreciates the use of covert warfare as well. It allows him to achieve his objectives without his enemies even being fully aware of it.
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CPT (Join to see) - Very interesting article!! I hadn't heard the term, but was familiar with the concept.

Regarding the combating of Maskirovka, that is a unique challenge. For one, I think many in the world are concerned about facing off against Russia for a second Cold War. The rebuilding of the USSR ideals under Vladimir Putin went virtually unnoticed until the re-annexation of the Crimea. Many dismissed the threat as they believed the USSR to still be financially crippled after the government auctioned off some of it's front line fighters and tanks to finance a Russian recession.

The reality is that it is important to unilaterally stand against these kinds of actions. It is a gamble, but one that is extremely important. The problem is that many of the UN nations are afraid of crossing Russia, or want concrete evidence, so even a weak excuse of "Sorry, I got lost on patrol and wandered more than 100 miles into your territory" would placate them. Additionally, some of these nations are reliant on Russian technology for their own military, so it creates a crutch when it comes to resistance. The US will not send it's finest fighters overseas (for good reason), but the Russians are willing to offer substantially better options in some aspects, and it is also likely cheaper than American aircraft as well. Nations like Poland are just now starting to break away from the Kalashnikov and try to develop their own weapons system based on the 5.56 round.

The additional challenge is the oil pipeline travelling from Russia into Europe. I believe they said it was around 2 billion gallons pumped a year into Europe (I don't remember the timeframe, just the 2 billion). Shutting that off would vastly inflate the costs of operating daily life in Europe, and would also hamper the UN/NATO forces ability to provide fuel in the event of mounting a counteroffensive.

There will come a time when the Russians will invade another area (potentially the rest of Ukraine), and the Europeans will need to decide how they are going to do it. This is much the same game that Hitler played in the 1930s when he started annexing the Sudetenland and invading surrounding small countries. Same excuses, "This was our land once...it was wrongfully stolen from us" and "These people are German/Russian. They have asked us to help reunite with their Fatherland/Motherland."
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A1C Nathan Roberts
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Don't forget, CPT (Join to see), the Russians also have a very good buddy buddy system w/ China. Those who have been paying attention have been wary of "the Bear & Dragon" since the fall of the wall. It can, if one were to delve into it to potentially insanity-inspiring depths, very scary.
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A1C Nathan Roberts - very true. Even more scary considering the amount of economic dependence that much of the world has on the Chinese exports. If they were to close ties immediately, it could cripple the bulk of the United States' industrial capabilities for a short (but critical) timeframe to allow whatever goals to be met. Much the same as Pearl Harbor set the US back 6 months....this reliance could easily set us back at LEAST that, not to mention the financial dependence due to the rising debt.

There are a lot of variables at work now that were previously unheard of in earlier conflicts.
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Defense against any lie, including maskirovka, is the truth. However, the effectiveness of this defense is dependent entirely upon the target population's (in this case, decision-makers at the U.N.) willingness to believe.

It doesn't matter how many lies you expose, if the target really wants to believe in the deception (i.e., they don't want to escalate to a shooting war), then they'll pretend to buy off on whatever explanation is given, no matter how weak it is.
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A1C Nathan Roberts
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MAJ (Join to see) lies spread faster & can be more easily believed than the truth, as people don't want to believe the truth if it upsets their delicate balance.
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I think it is important to remember what Sun Tzu said:

All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

If the lie is expertly crafted, it resembles the truth and will be believed. But your point about the target population's willingness to believe is also an important point MAJ (Join to see). Those who are unwilling to face the truth for the sake of convenience are bound to be constrained by lies.
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A1C Nathan Roberts
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YES! Sun Tzu, as wise today as he was then, CPT (Join to see)!
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Just as the Euro has unified the economies of Europe in the hopes of preventing future wars between those nations, the global economy has created a quasi-dependence between countries such as the US and China. When and if any use of force to prevent further aggression in the Ukraine, the US debt to China and the Wuropean dependency on Russian oil will be the greatest influences on those decisions. The aggression will be denounced with wirds but until it directly affects the countries that have the ability to stop it, nothing will be done. Status Quo intact. Other than the service men an women whi wear the uniform, whonelse is truly willing to make the necessary sacrifices needed to support such a major political and economic move?
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