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Posted on Jan 15, 2021
Chris Meek
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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We need better evaluations during the discharge process
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Cpl Vic Burk
Cpl Vic Burk
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You got that right Lt Col Charlie Brown. When you are getting discharged they just want to push you out the door as fast as possible I think.
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MSG Michael Hankins
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The truth is you don't even know you have it most of the time until you leave service. Most take it just adjusting back into their civilian life as the obstacle not knowing they are in need of help. Also if you were like me ,going to sick call would trigger a negative reaction from your command and sort of put you on the radar. As i progressed in rank i adopted the same mind set that i incorporated in my style of leadership. Its like a never ending cycle and we are the ones to pay later if we try to file a claim and nothing is documented.
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CPO Nate S.
CPO Nate S.
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MSG Michael Hankins Unfortunately, logging MH issues, can be discriminating beyond other obvious forms.

I would argue, as someone who has had to respond to MH emergencies, in the wee hours of the morning in sickbay in the middle of the ocean that it is about properly managing the double edge blade of being a compassionate leader and maintaining good order and discipline, while at the same time letting a sailor / marine (officer or enlisted) you are listening. Not easy, to say the least!

There will always be those who want to be excused for deliberate bad behaviors using MH as a ruse because they don't want to be held accountable. But, their are many more who have no problem with being held accountable that don't want to be "punished" for having the integrity to ask for help and then act in proper manner to execute the plan they asked for help with. Yet, it is when MH is weaponized it is at its worst! I have seen MH weaponized and used by those whose behavior because of rank and status was not to be questioned, but was questionable. The destruction of trust and unit cohesion is devistating under such conditions. Thus, offering to subordinates, a "no way out" scenario, verse providing a relieve value, that still keeps the boiler intact but releaves pressure, before the boiler explodes harming so many more, that with a properly operational relieve valve.

While we need better tools, etc. we need leaders at all level to have a better understand and be able to offer help when there are "early warning signs", to keep some our best and brightest still shining vs dulling their luster in undue fear of being able to asked for help.

I spoke with my for boss the other day. Had he not seen my need and been preemptive in a positive way, I would not be here today giving you this response. I thank God that in that time of need he expected me do my duty, but know I had been throught a very traumatic experience and nudged me into help he and others knew I needed so I could move to fulfil a potential he knew I had.

We (I) call that - LEADERSHIP not management!!!
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MAJ Armored Combat Command Commander
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- We need better screening.
- We need to standardize how unit leaders treat those with mental problems.
- We need mental health therapists who understand PTSD better. We have regulations, SOPs, FMs but nothing like a standardized treatment plan for those who have PTSD.
- We need to educate the SMs better about the MEB process and the VA.
- We need to put the SMs in WTU/WTBs if they are available.
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CPO Cory Cook -

Good question.

If I had to write the SOP either someone with more rank told me I needed to write an SOP. If not, I would go to my superior with some good rank to tell the boss about the project and the support I would need from the boss as overhead cover to open doors to me.

I would lay on the couch and brainstorm the process in my head. I would build a flow chart to determine what all the entities are involved in mental health. I would ask all the entities to give me information. Perhaps like Tasks, Conditions, Standards. That is just one way to look at it. The point is to ask what do the entities do and how do they fit in the big picture.

I would then write a draft SOP. Upon completion I would send the draft SOP to the head of the various entities to staff the SOP and tell them if they concur, non-concur, and if they want to add more information.

I would rewrite the SOP and send it to the heads of the entities again. Hopefully at this point we have the 100% solution. Then it becomes an SOP, but it has to be a living document in case there are changes to the processes.

That my friend is how it should be done.
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CPO Cory Cook
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MAJ (Join to see) I wholeheartedly agree "living document"...it will never be complete.
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CPO Cory Cook
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MAJ (Join to see) I would not limit the criticism to the Army alone. Every branch is involved, not excluding the National Guard. Not sure complacency could be aptly applied either. My guess is a fear of casting stigma on members affected, and a fear of the American public that it is happening so widely...but, that is just a thought, not even an opinion. Not being an authority, I can only guess at what I've seen.
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I only have army experience and can’t talk about other branches. CPO Cory Cook
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