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Posted on Mar 23, 2021
1LT Lila Quintiliani
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Edited 3 y ago
It is said to pay yourself first like a savings allotment so you can’t touch it.

I also pay a lot more in taxes than I should which means tax a refund around $7000 each year. I know some of you will say there is financial inefficiency going this route, but I don’t care. $7000 puts a smile on my face.
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Now I want to delve into investing:

Build up an emergency savings fund that is very liquid first.

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I would recommend starting with a mutual fund that tracks the S&P 500. Mutual funds give you diversification. Diversification means it is a safer investment than individual stocks. Those are the 500 largest corporations. It generally tracks the stock market in general. Over the long-term the average annual yield is around 10%. The slope is upward. The TSP C invests in the S&P 500.
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There is a Rule of 72 to double your money. Let us say your mutual fund yields 10% annually. You multiply 10X=72. What is the value of X? It is 7.2. It will take you 7.2 years at 10% to double your money.
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Investing in individual stocks is riskier. The rewards can be greater but so can your losses. I would advise you to take the approach in investing individual stocks as am I willing to risk losing money?
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401K or TSP is a good way to build wealth. If your company matches any of your contributions, then that is free money. If you have a Traditional 401K you will see an instant tax benefit. Let's use the example you invest $10,000 annually and you are in the 20% tax bracket. You will not pay taxes on the $10,000.

You will not pay the $2000 on the $10,000 investment. Let's look at the components of the $10,000 investment. It is comprised of the $2000 saved taxes and $8000. Essentially you invest $8000 and the IRS gives you back $2000 in taxes to help you achieve the goal of investing $10,000. You are out of pocket $8000 to make a $10,000 investment.
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Here is some more advice. A few years before retiring and withdrawing from the 401K, transfer your invetments into something very safe like government bonds. You don't want to risk losing money. The last time the market went down 30%, some of the people who were preparing to retire saw their $300,000 investments turn into $210,000. They ended up working longer to build up their retirement funds.
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I suggest you put your money in C and S funds. Both have long-term upward slopes.
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Traditional vs Roth TSP
Traditional = immediate tax relief but pay taxes when you withdraw. Roth = no immediate tax relief but you pay no taxes when you retire and withdraw.
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Allow me to paint the picture for you. After I am done you will want to set your hair on fire.

The matching by the government is dollar for dollar up to 3% of your base salary. Anything past 3% and less than 5% they will match 50 cents on the dollar.

Let's run numbers on a salary of $20,000, Tradional TSp, $3600 you invest a year.

Matching funds: $600 + $200.
Investment: $3600.
Let's say you are in teh 20% tax bracket. You don't pay taxes on $3600 = $720 savings.
What is the total value of your investment to include matching funds for the year? $3600 + $600 + $200 = $4400.
What is your out of pocket cost? $3600 - $720 = $2,880.
Your out of pocket cost of $2,880 is now worth $4400. Your $2,880 investment grew 53% for the year to $4400.

Aint that nice?
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Let's take this one step further. Let's say you invest $4400 every year for 20 years with an average return of 10%. Your total $57,600 out of pocket funds you invest will be worth $252,000 in 20 years.
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SP5 Dennis Loberger
SP5 Dennis Loberger
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Paying yourself first is good advice. I started that when I was first out of the Army and have been ever since. I no longer need to work financially, I do emotionally. I decided on my separation I would only work for a company with a 401K. It has served me well. I understand the good feeling you get on a refund, you might want it to be a bit smaller, however. I had the other experience this year, I had to pay almost $6,000 this year. It is not satisfying at all
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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Well it gets batter. I have not filed 2019 taxes yet so that is another $7000 plus $7000 for 2020. I really don’t care about the opportunity cost as I am trying to save for a house down payment. It gets crazier cause I will also get the stimulus money. SP5 Dennis Loberger
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SP5 Dennis Loberger
SP5 Dennis Loberger
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Best of luck on the house.
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CW3 Kevin Storm
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As someone who fell to bad side of the credit monster many years ago and had to work to get out from under the words I can add to this is this. You don't always need brand new, used will get you by. I don't care how attractive that credit card looks, odds are you really don't need it. If you are new service member the only credit you should of even take, is investing in yourself, and that is your education. I didn't say college, that could be taking courses in your given MOS (if you have a trade that can convert), learning computer skills, learning to read, speak another language, learn a trade. New cars, new furniture, or what ever the fade is in electronics you don't need it. Start saving now for your retirement, 20 years will go by fast, and in that 20 the potential to become a TSP Millionaire is there. There are a lot of great programs out there to get ahead, use them.
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SFC James Welch
SFC James Welch
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Believe me an old Retire, when you get old you will need everything you can get. The greatest thing I ever did was stay in and retire. If you don’t, you will gate yourself and be one of those I meet every day. “ I sure wish now I had stayed in”. Aldiss Major Landgren said, pay yourself first by putting some every month in a savings account. Stay away from credit cards. Save until you can afford to pay cash for it. Start with a used car you can afford and trade up as you go. Make a plan. If you are single put everything except what you have to have in savings. You will never regret it. Good luck with your family and career!
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1LT Lila Quintiliani Great website. The military helps to instill discipline. Discipline can help with living beneath your means, saving as much money as possible and investing wisely.
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