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Posted on May 15, 2017
MG Peter Bosse
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CPT Jim Gillcrist
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I agree to a point. Trust can be eroded by through uncaring leadership, but caring leadership is not sufficient for trust. Often what is lacking is competence and/or a clear trustworthy cause/mission/purpose or simply the expectation that lying (aka, pencil whipping) is standard procedure and acceptable.

I'm pretty positive my BN command team didn't care about the soldiers under them. However, that would have been only a small problem compared to their incompetence, habitual mission-drift, and their falsifying of Intel and reports.
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MG Peter Bosse
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That's why the Army wants leaders of character, competence, commitment and I believe Caring!
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TSgt Melissa Post
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So true sir!! And I would recommend not just for the Army but for all branches. I have gone from leadership that didn't give two hoots about all their people just the ones in the good ole boys club to a new unit that seems to genuinely take an interest in their people. However, recently I had the honor to meet one of our few four star generals. I was genuinely excited. This is the leader that I chose to stay under when I cross trained. I came to work prepared to pull a super long shift to come in early the next day for another 12 hour shift, excited to meet someone that high ranking. I waited all day until he showed up and when he got here he shook all of our hands and then left. Nothing else. How anti-climactic was that? I made sure I looked top notch that day, and another Amn said to me "I ironed my uniform for this...". We were both severely disappointed because what this General showed us, whether he meant to or not, was that he didn't really care.

When talking to one of our staff sergeants about it, she said well maybe he was tired. Ok, let's say he was tired. That is still no excuse to not spend a couple of minutes to ask how are things going, do you need anything, or heck give a piece of General wisdom from your twenty plus years of service that will help the younger generation grow. I told her that this is what is expected of him because of his position of not just a General but also our Leader. I also told her that now when I walk past his picture in the hallway, I no longer think "Yes that is my boss" because all I can think is "Yeah, you didn't have time to invest into your Airmen. Not even one minute to spare." Although I know it isn't the right mentality to have I can't seem to help it. After all how many times does an E-4 or below get the opportunity to meet the highest rank in the military? Not very often in my six years experience.

So yes "Don't Care, Don't Trust" should definitely be a new policy all across the board. Because younger ranks need to know that their leaders care about them if the leaders what their followers to trust them. Someone once said "If you want people to care, show them that you do first."
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MSG Mark Million
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Bottom line, we need to look out for each other. Trust is something in the military that we take for granted, however it seems to be more common these days for that trust be on shaky ground.
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LCpl Shane Couch
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MSG Mark Million do you think that some MOS tend to lend less trust/caring within a unit? Like an infantry unit for example, they are constantly performing training exercises and building the bond between each other. Admin or Supply positions not so much in field exercises or trust building functions. This is just me guessing. I was a Motor Transport Operator, that was lucky enough to be stationed with 2 units that did participate in a lot of training and field exercises and I feel that brought our platoon very close and even close with other MOS's throughout the Company and even Battalion.
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I would definitely say that those whose job relies on trust and looking out for each other share a tighter bond. If soldiers don't trust their medics, the unit suffers efficiency due to lack of trust and confidence that they will be taken care of if things go bad. If infantry soldiers lack trust in each other, they can't operate effectively. If soldiers don't trust leadership, the unit suffers. For certain jobs, trust reflects life and is held in higher regard.
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LTC Thomas Tennant
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Oh My God!!!! Sometimes I wonder if the Army, and military as a whole, has become a social petri dish for the "touchy feely crowd" and forgotten what we are about. The military is an extension of foreign policy to protect our national interest. We, as our nation's warriors, are expected to be ready to kill and demoralize opposing forces and destroy their stuff. Maybe I'm a neanderthal who belongs in another age, but to build warriors and forge them into a "band of brothers" (and sisters) there has to be some crucible event they collectively have to overcome. There can not be "safe places" and other new age dribble.

So forgive me if I am repulsed by another "feel good" idea like this "Don't Care Don't Trust" being bantered about. As a BC when DADT came about I though that policy/program was a band-aid approach to poor leadership from the top down. The Army values found in Gen Abram's LDRSHIP was a good start of correcting the leadership flaws systemic within the service. Tied to those values were the Warrior's Creed and setting standards for performance and conduct. As a BC, I felt every soldiers' eyes on me and knew I was being evaluated by them...but I was not driven by a popularity contest but by a set of principles and ethics drilled into me throughout my career.

For me and many of my peers, the chain of command and NCO chain of communication, were sacrosanct. Yet as I progressed and became a "senior staff officer" I was troubled by the "creeping careerism" at each possessive grade. The alphabet soup programs of DADT, DCDT, etc. are just a symptom where some staff officer or general wanted a bullet point on an evaluation. The problem is that, with every special program/policy, we kept drifting from the "fundamentals of leadership and command" which some of us "old soldiers" were taught by those who were fading away before us. CPT Jack Durish in his response did a good job summarizing those fundamentals.

Bottom line....We do not need any more stinking programs but senior leaders who are out and about making sure both chains (command and communication) are working and standards are met.
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LTC Barry Hull
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Maybe I am just stupid, but I really don't get the point of this article. Is this just verbose sarcasm?
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Lt Col Daniel McNally
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The LGBTQ group is a subgroup that works often in secrecy and have issues beyond my comprehension. Best to avoid them.
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LTC Bill Koski
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Interesting take on ta king care of Soldiers
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SGT Shaul Funt
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Interesting Reading
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