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Posted on Aug 4, 2020
Larry Pruitt
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Cpl Jeff N.
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The safe thing to do is never answer the question. Period. It is no ones business if you own weapons legally. Perhaps one of the reasons guns are used in suicide is they are an available means to use. Do we really think that those determined to kill themselves will not find a way?

I have seen the recent ads from the Department of Veterans Affairs on "safe weapons" and they are complete BS. Keeping a weapon unloaded and locked away and the ammo stored in a different location than the weapon makes paper weights out of them.

This is merely another avenue in the "safety" screed hurled out by society today. I prefer liberty over safety.
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TSgt Jeremy Maples
TSgt Jeremy Maples
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Sgt Jack Bain just another piece to remember in a split second. Ain't nobody got time for that
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Sgt Jack Bain
Sgt Jack Bain
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TSgt Jeremy Maples - My finger rests there ready with my AR and when I hold my hand gun my thumb is resting on the safety. I see no problem and my safeties are off long before my weapon is on target. Yes I have pulled a weapon in an environment I wasn't comfortable in. I'm not going to shoot my leg drawing my hand gun.
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SPC Kenneth Hand
SPC Kenneth Hand
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I have to say I carry with a round in the chamber and there is NO safety on the gun! The safety is the holster and my restraint from pulling the trigger. Ching-Ching Pow can be way to slow if someone is within 16' of you.
Some of my other weapons have safeties but they are not for fast deployment. I have had my children around guns all of their life, they were instructed on what it does and even handled the weapons under supervision. I never locked my weapon away then but if any of you know what a .303 British is there is a half cock on the firing pin not many know about, you couldn't even open the bolt. There was always a clip in but not locked. The weapon was never moved by my kids, how do I know? Just like I knew when they were in the garage and used the tools!
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SPC Colin Jenks
SPC Colin Jenks
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My uncle was in Vietnam. He had mental evaluations done to determine if a shooting was a legal shooting. It was determined to be a lawful shoot
After the war he worked as a deputy sherriff, and a criminal investigator. In the 90s President Clinton released documents about Laos operations including ones he was apart of. Few years ago his county sherriff, his friend told him they recieved word from the VA and the sherriffs office had to take his permit and any fire arms that belonged to him. Luckily his wife had a permit and she took possession of the firearms. So it does happen.

In NY mental health people can and will get guns taken away from people. Far too many mental health providers are anti gun who dont believe anyone should own firearms. The best people to prevent veteran suicide is someone's buddy's. I have a buddy who I know to be depressed. He posted some stuff on FB that was indicative of suicide. I immediately tried to contact him, when I couldn't contacted the plt sgt to ensure someone can do a wellness check and talk to him.
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SSgt Joseph Baptist
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The "myth" persists because it is not a myth, but something that actually happens to too many gun owners who seek mental health assistance.

I have had two friends who have lost their firearms rights due to the (well intentioned, but misguided) interventions of mental health professionals.

In one case, a friend who had recently had his first child, and whose wife was suffering extreme post partum depression was at the end of his rope and called a suicide hotline during a moment when he felt completely overwhlemed. He never threatened to shoot himself or anyone else, but was asked about guns and ammunition in his home.
The next day, he called me to come and remove his ammunition (he was already storing his target gun in my safe, because he didn't own a safe and had a baby in his house), and the Sheriff's deputies arrived while I was there to search the house for firearms and ammunition - having been called by the mental health people. He later had me handle the sale of his firearm, because he was told that, due to his "mental health issue" (a bad day, when he called a hotline because he was embarrased to talk to friends about his problems), he would have to go to court and have a judge decide whether or not he could own firearms in the future.

Another friend, a former coworker, came with me and a group of friends to do some causal traget shooting, followed by a picnic lunch at the range complex. During lunch, she told me that this was the first good day she had had in weeks, because she was going through a brutal divorce, and her husband (emotionally abusive) was constantly telling her what a terrible person she was, etc. and she felt like a failure and a terrible human. This is one of the best teachers I have ever worked with - a woman who inspired her students everyday, and who showed love and care for kids from terrible home-situations. Her ex's constant attacks caused her to think she was worthless, incapable, and drove her into a severe depression (she was in therapy, but not on medication). She told me that the focus and attention she had to use to hit the target while shooting took her mind off of what was going on with her ex, allowed her to feel in control, and allowed her to enjoiy the day with the group.
When she shared this with her therapist, he told her that she could not be around guns, or gun owners, and threatened to get the police involved if she was to continue to go shooting.

So, no, the mental health professional doesn't personally take the guns away, but they can send the police to do it.

These incidents both happened in California, so may have played out differently in states that are more rational.
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Sgt James S.
Sgt James S.
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BINGO!
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SGT Steve McFarland
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My answer to "Do you have a gun?" is "None of your business."
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PO2 David Ball
PO2 David Ball
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And have your weapons seized!!! After all there is still no such thing as free lunch nor medical care!!
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MAJ Byron O.
MAJ Byron O.
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I did until the boating accident...so tell me more about what happened that day on the boat? Was everyone ok?
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CPT Canon To The Ordinary
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My response: "Absolutely not! I see too many people every day that need killin to own one." ;)
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SGT Steve McFarland
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CPT (Join to see) Bwahaha!!! Good one!
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