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Veterans with a bachelor's degree are much more likely to be employed than Veterans with a high school diploma. But did you know Veterans with bachelor's degrees earn an average of $500 more per week?
Could you have guessed which would be the highest paying fields of study?
Could you have guessed which would be the highest paying fields of study?
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Apologies to all for my math mistake as pointed out by the quick witted PO1 Walter Duncan a 20 year 1st Class Petty Officer and Machinist Mate.
Thank you for doing so in such a kind way PO1 Walter Duncan.
Thank you for doing so in such a kind way PO1 Walter Duncan.
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Here are some great charts done by the census bureau. One is the change in education status from 2003 compared to 2013. The other is the percentage of the population that have achieved different levels of education.
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LTC (Join to see)
Sir...that is a great question....but I wonder, how far do you take it and who does it apply to? 500 for a Bachelors? 1000 for a Masters? Enlisted only as we (officers) are required to have degrees? Since we are alreay doing this for our professional degreed officers (Drs, Lawyers), why not do it for the whole Military.
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COL (Join to see)
Brian, the benefits from education are endless. As a young service member they should be focusing on their trade and how to master their job roles in the force. I would say that at the E5 level, we should begin incorporating education into the NCOES, like the officers have at the master's level for ILE type programs etc. (or at least we can apply our CCC for credits in many master's level programs)
At the E5 and above level they should have figured out time management and should be more malleable when it comes to grooming them for positions of greater responsibility.
So at a min, I would work in the Associates level for the NCO's that allows whoever is motivated to get their Bachelor's. Officers should be pushed to the Master's level since most field grade officers embark in policy and strategic level discussions. If you do not carry yourself academically you will be eaten alive in some of those circles.
At the E5 and above level they should have figured out time management and should be more malleable when it comes to grooming them for positions of greater responsibility.
So at a min, I would work in the Associates level for the NCO's that allows whoever is motivated to get their Bachelor's. Officers should be pushed to the Master's level since most field grade officers embark in policy and strategic level discussions. If you do not carry yourself academically you will be eaten alive in some of those circles.
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Cpl Brett Wagner
LTC Nicholas Montalto A $1,000 per week or per month? I will not even say here on RP what I would do for a $1,000 per week out of respect for others. Wash cars, take out the trash, hell I'll eat the trash for $1,000 per week.
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COL (Join to see)
Absolutely unfortunate that more people do not take advantage of an essentially free education when there is so much data that speaks to how much better you will do if you have a degree.
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MAJ Laurie H. Absolutely, ma'am! Part of the reason I enlisted is because my college money ran out and I didn't want to finance my degree with a boat load of debt.
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I wonder if there's a comparable bump in pay for master's degrees. I came into the military with a bachelor's degree but anymore it seems like one needs to get a master's to set him or herself apart.
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Along with my graduate degree came a 50% income reduction in return. Time to change fields... again.
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Mark Twain said, "There are LIES, DAMN LIES, and STATISTICS." From this, you can quickly realize that the statistics might say that degree X is valuable, and yet you don't have any success with it. So is the fault the degree, or is there something else at work?
Factoid 1: 40% of the jobs available to new graduated did not exist when the person started college.
Factoid 2: The most important thing a BS or BA degree says about you is that you had the gumption to slog through 4 years of crap to get that sheepskin. As someone who has counselled soldiers and made employment recommendations, I cannot find something I am more interested in than demonstrated ability to persevere in the face of adversity.
Factoid 3: I cannot tell you how many young soldiers think that just because they passed 25B, 33W, or some other technical MOS school, means that civilian companies are dying to give them 6 figure salaries. Enlisted are the BLUE COLLAR workers in the military equivalent of the civilian workforce. You need a LOT more than your military school if you expect that salary.
Let me also say that we hear a lot about Equal Opportunity, and perhaps even about Equal Education. What I don't see is Equality of Effort. I see a lot of people who think that graduating is all that is needed, whether it's degrees, certifications, training schools, whatever. But the factor that I think means the most is the EFFORT you put into it.
This can be seen at the lowest of all professions (in terms of education) i.e. prostitution. Which one gets more money per trick, the one who wears trashy clothes and has the loud mouth, or the one who looks like your high school sweetheart?
Factoid 1: 40% of the jobs available to new graduated did not exist when the person started college.
Factoid 2: The most important thing a BS or BA degree says about you is that you had the gumption to slog through 4 years of crap to get that sheepskin. As someone who has counselled soldiers and made employment recommendations, I cannot find something I am more interested in than demonstrated ability to persevere in the face of adversity.
Factoid 3: I cannot tell you how many young soldiers think that just because they passed 25B, 33W, or some other technical MOS school, means that civilian companies are dying to give them 6 figure salaries. Enlisted are the BLUE COLLAR workers in the military equivalent of the civilian workforce. You need a LOT more than your military school if you expect that salary.
Let me also say that we hear a lot about Equal Opportunity, and perhaps even about Equal Education. What I don't see is Equality of Effort. I see a lot of people who think that graduating is all that is needed, whether it's degrees, certifications, training schools, whatever. But the factor that I think means the most is the EFFORT you put into it.
This can be seen at the lowest of all professions (in terms of education) i.e. prostitution. Which one gets more money per trick, the one who wears trashy clothes and has the loud mouth, or the one who looks like your high school sweetheart?
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Yeah, Petroleum Engineering might not be that great of a decision..... The U.S. is starting to move towards natural gas.
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A degree will also earn you, on average, $1 million more over your lifetime.
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I would like to see that on my LES statement, seeing that I graduated with my BA in 2012 and I'm graduating in Feb 2015 with my MBA. I would LOVE to see an extra increase in pay as a GS-05.
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SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S. Thank you for the comment. It has been a long and tough road but I am happy that I have reached my goal. I work for the Department of Defense, Air Force Research Laboratory. I'm trying to get my boss to change my position to fit with my education. Say a prayer for me, lol.
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SFC Dan Sorrow, M.S.
SrA Marilyn Edwards, I will say a prayer for you. I hope it works out.
I was in an MBA program when I was selected for a promotion with SSA. To accept the position, I left the MBA program and accepted the MSM (Master of Science in Management) degree. The position is a GS-9/11/12 and I've been a GS-12 for over a year (GS-12 step 2 now). I really enjoy the work and that the degree is paying off.
I was in an MBA program when I was selected for a promotion with SSA. To accept the position, I left the MBA program and accepted the MSM (Master of Science in Management) degree. The position is a GS-9/11/12 and I've been a GS-12 for over a year (GS-12 step 2 now). I really enjoy the work and that the degree is paying off.
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MSgt Rod Jackson
Not sure what mean by change your position to match your education. If your position is graded as a GS-05 then that is more than likely what it is going to stay. You will have to apply for a higher graded position. I just retired as a GS-12 Supervisory Education Specialist. I started out as a GS-07 and was told if I wanted a promotion I would need to earn a master's degree. Our career field has a positive education requirement. GS-09 thru 15 in the 1740 field require 24 SH's in specific courses in order to qualify and most positions require advanced degrees in Education as counsellors. So, to get in line with the original conversation my graduate degree did help me quite a it with advancement and pay.
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SSgt Michael Hacker
That, it is. It keeps the electricity on and food in my belly until I can dupe... er... convince someone else to give me more.
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MSgt Rod Jackson
If the pay was 66% less why would you take the position (unless there was a promise of near future promotions). Sounds like the graduate degree was not the culprit. The culprit was you accepting a much less paying position.
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