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SSG Roger Ayscue
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If it had been White Male Cadets it would read like this:
"The 16 white male cadets who posed for a photo with their fists raised and sparked a nationwide debate will face punitive action and will likely be separated from the Service", West Point officials announced Tuesday. Army officials stated that the actions of these male Cadets are insensitive to others and are not in keeping with good order and discipline. Military Members are forbidden from making political statements while in uniform under the provisions of the Hatch Act.

You just GOTTA LOVE the Double Standard that exists in the Army today. Maybe one day we will be in a colorblind Army. Maybe...The Army that my 14 year old son wants to serve in will once again focus on winning wars and protecting the country and NOT with making political statements and trying to be a laboratory for Social Engineering.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SSG Roger Ayscue
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LTC (Join to see) - Sir, No disrespect but when does it end? When does the Army actually become Equal. Plus, the examples you cited are Corps Squad teams. I remember from my Plebe Year (Class of 1986, found in Academics, E-1 Damn It, should have spun Sedgwick's Spurs)From my Plebe Year, I remember that a Corps Squad team could get away with murder, and if it was Army Football, by God you could fail Rock Math and stay in Grey.
This does not change the fact that these Cadets put something ahead of the Service, ahead of their oath and violated the Hatch Act by making a political statement in Uniform. How can a white trooper, under their command feel that he will get a fair deal? That is why the Army should be colorblind, but we all know that will never be, so I am wizzing up a rope.
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LTC Acquisition Intelligence
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SSG; I don't believe they were attempting to make a political statement, I just think they used poor judgment.

As far as Corps Squad or not, how do we know none of these cadets are corps squad or not.

I'm in the Army now and view it from the inside; I think we are a fair organization and getting better each day.

I understand how this situation can be viewed the way you do, but I (honestly) don't think that is the case.
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Maj Rob Drury
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Totally agree; except that we wouldn't have even heard about the white males. They would have simply been administratively removed.
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SSG Roger Ayscue
SSG Roger Ayscue
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LTC (Join to see) - Sir, UNTIL and IF the US Army removes ALL photos, references to gender and race from all evaluations...Until the EO Program is represented equally across the board, Until all standards are the same and NO PROMOTION BOARDS use EO Goals....Until these things are accomplished, the US Army will still lead the way on Organizational Discrimination against White Males. Deny all you want, but the Army destroys all the evidence at the end of all centralized promotion boards and recalls the list is there are not enough of each "Protected Class" on the list. They should release the board results so that they have to show WHY an individual did not get promoted and where they stood on the list.
Transparency is the only way to prove equal opportunity. Historical discrimination is NOT an excuse for Institutional, Approved Discrimination that we have today, and with a Liberal Administration likely coming in, this will just get worse.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Not surprising news SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL when I was a graduating senior at West Point we had a few pictures taken of my company which was H-3.
It was a shame that the particular picture with raised fists was sent out and became viral.
When I was USMA cadet the internet was a far off vision.
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2LT Army Medical Student
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There has never been an "old grad photo" that I have seen 1) in color vs B/W format and 2) with fists raised. NONE. Very interesting. Thanks for the post.
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LTC Acquisition Intelligence
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LT; I've seen a LOT worse. The year before women were admitted to the academy, one company posed with the balls from various sports; the implication being that was the last year "with balls".

If you just graduated (which I assume you did based on rank and your knowledge of Old Corps photos) how about having more faith in the Supe to make the correct call. According to the facts we have, it looks like he did.
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