Posted on Mar 7, 2014
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Please keep the families and friends in your prayers. There were over 200 people on board and in a case like this its highly unlikely it just disappeared.
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No lie. Today I had a retiree state that the plane did not crash. He said it was abducted by aliens. He also said this is not the first time it happened. There was no laugh or just kidding. I laughed, but he looked at me like I was crazy. I honestly think he believed it.
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Some people s kids.
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Malaysia b772 9m mro gulf of thailand 140308 sat 1800
Here s what I know so far-bear in mind I am not a crash investigator:
Radar track shows where its intended and actual flight paths are. Last known recorded data for the aircraft, its altitude, heading, and position, it was at 35000 feet and made a rapid descent followed by a paradigm shift in heading. This means the following three situations:
1. A component or engine on the aircraft caught on fire in some form or fashion. Emergency dictates that you trade altitude for airspeed, since the force of the wind will hopefully extinguish the fire. Also, you bank the aircraft in such a way that the fire avoids spreading to the critical areas of the air frame, and more importantly, away from the passengers, crew, and cargo.

2. The aircraft lost pressure. Granted there is supplemental o2 for situations like this, however if you don't get the mask on quick your useful consciousness goes down quick fast and in a hurry. Pilots get asphyxiated, and that s all she wrote.

3. Similar to what happened to the Air France flight 337 that crashed over the coast of Brazil quite some time ago, the primary airspeed instruments had some sort of malfunction or problem. There is always a redundant system on the aircraft, but, if both fail, the aircraft could trick itself into thinking its loosing airspeed and approaching the stall. There is a thing called a stick shaker to avoid that from happening. However, if prompt action is not taken, the aircraft will loose lift over the wing and control surfaces and simply fall out of the sky. Worse, if there is no rudder added into the corrective action (pilots call this lack of coordination), the aircraft could go into a spin. 

Any of these situations do not bode well. I am sure the pilots were well trained, but the only thing that I am going to go with is #1 or #2. I doubt the bulkheads are that bad that it would suffer a catastrophic structural failure to the point the aircraft falls apart, but I have been wrong before. I am leaning towards #1. 

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There are two critical devices on an airliner. There is the flight data recorder or Black box (its actually bright orange), and then there is the Emergency Locator Transmitter. The ELT is the SOS beacon, it emits on two different frequencies-121.50 on the VHF (satellites don t monitor this anymore, you would have to be in close range ~5-10 miles away), or on the 406mHZ channel. The satellites DO hit that one. Early reports suggested that the Vietnamese officials did receive the ELT transmission within a few minutes of losing radar contact with MH370, but it was unclear if it was the actual aircraft or not. 
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Not particularly...everything function as it was supposed to. Now, the news is saying the airliner was radar contact WEST of Malaysia, as if to turn around and land. Ground based military radar positively ID them at 0120 Local, and at 0240 it dropped off screen. 
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They found it a little while ago. It crashed off the Vietnamese coast (Though Malaysia is still denying it).
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It cleared land alright, she smacked into the Gulf of Thailand. The aircraft had over 7 hours of fuel endurance on board, which means something like that has a TON of fuel, were talking in the 90-110000 lbs of Jet A. If that had hit the ground, it would made one hell of a fireball that could have been seen for miles. 
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What I have been taught is that regardless of what is going on in the cockpit, the first indication of trouble you notify ATC: "Sansung Center, this is MH370, we have situation, standby for further..." you constantly work to fix the plane first and keep the guy on the ground guiding you in the loop. Sadly, no such calls were made to ATC-they just dropped off the radar. That means something went really really wrong.

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