Posted on Aug 21, 2015
Eight women, 101 men will retake Ranger School phase
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Did you know recycling is allowed during ranger school?
I keep hearing the rumbling of the women being given an unfair advantage to complete Ranger school because they were allowed to recycle. Wanting to know if this were true or not I searched for the rules regarding recycling through Ranger training and I came across this article. The article states that 101 Men were recycled with the women. Now I understand that there may be insider information regarding the women's performance ratings and or individual task completion that may sway my opinion if I knew it, but I don't so what I see is that men are recycled the same as the women. (don't jump on me because I didn't use he/she..)"Here's what I found by the book, "If student performs successfully, but suffers an injury that keeps him from finishing, he may be medically recycled (med recycle) at the discretion of either the battalion or the Ranger Training Brigade commander; he will be given an opportunity to heal and finish the course with the next class. Students recycled in the first phase are temporarily assigned to Vaughn's Platoon (informally known as the "Gulag" to Ranger students). Recycled students typically receive classes on Ranger School tasks and perform a variety of general tasks for their respective Ranger Training Battalion. While marking time at Ranger School is not always pleasant, those who have been recycled typically perform well when reinserted back into the course, with pass rates well over 80%.
Students can also be recycled for a variety of other reasons, including failing their patrol evaluations, peer evaluation, collecting 3 or more bad spot reports in a phase, or receiving a Serious Observation Report (SOR). Students may receive SORs for actions including, but not limited to, negligent discharges, safety violations involving demolitions or mountaineering, not looking through their sights while firing, or throwing away ammunition to lighten their load while on patrol. If a student fails a phase twice for the same reason (patrols, peers, etc.) he will usually be dropped from the course, but may possibly be offered a "day one restart," and will restart on Day 1 of the next Ranger School class. In rare cases, those assessed of honor violations (lying, cheating, stealing) and SORs may be offered a day one restart as opposed to being dropped from the course."
I keep hearing the rumbling of the women being given an unfair advantage to complete Ranger school because they were allowed to recycle. Wanting to know if this were true or not I searched for the rules regarding recycling through Ranger training and I came across this article. The article states that 101 Men were recycled with the women. Now I understand that there may be insider information regarding the women's performance ratings and or individual task completion that may sway my opinion if I knew it, but I don't so what I see is that men are recycled the same as the women. (don't jump on me because I didn't use he/she..)"Here's what I found by the book, "If student performs successfully, but suffers an injury that keeps him from finishing, he may be medically recycled (med recycle) at the discretion of either the battalion or the Ranger Training Brigade commander; he will be given an opportunity to heal and finish the course with the next class. Students recycled in the first phase are temporarily assigned to Vaughn's Platoon (informally known as the "Gulag" to Ranger students). Recycled students typically receive classes on Ranger School tasks and perform a variety of general tasks for their respective Ranger Training Battalion. While marking time at Ranger School is not always pleasant, those who have been recycled typically perform well when reinserted back into the course, with pass rates well over 80%.
Students can also be recycled for a variety of other reasons, including failing their patrol evaluations, peer evaluation, collecting 3 or more bad spot reports in a phase, or receiving a Serious Observation Report (SOR). Students may receive SORs for actions including, but not limited to, negligent discharges, safety violations involving demolitions or mountaineering, not looking through their sights while firing, or throwing away ammunition to lighten their load while on patrol. If a student fails a phase twice for the same reason (patrols, peers, etc.) he will usually be dropped from the course, but may possibly be offered a "day one restart," and will restart on Day 1 of the next Ranger School class. In rare cases, those assessed of honor violations (lying, cheating, stealing) and SORs may be offered a day one restart as opposed to being dropped from the course."
Eight women, 101 men will retake Ranger School phase
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A lot of the negative comments on this are from people who didn't understand the situation. I'll admit that I didn't know the rules before either, but before commenting on the "recycling" I checked and found out it is normal. The females also were not recycled at a higher rate than the men just for the record.
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CW4 (Join to see) All is good, it bothers me slightly but not too much. The thing about it I don't understand though is if you disagree enough to downvote, no one will know what your vote meant unless you reply. It seems most downvotes are not accompanied by a comment.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
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CW4 (Join to see) - You can learn more about down voting here: http://support.rallypoint.com/customer/portal/articles/1401594
What is voting down? Voting down, or "down voting", is how the community indicates that a member's pos...
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LTC Yinon Weiss, well in that case, I still feel that a down vote wasn't necessary interference to LCDR (Join to see) initial response. How was his response offensive? In my opinion, just because you don't agree with a statement, doesn't mean you should down vote. I have a strong feeling that I'm not the only one who feels that way. How about you respond and make your point. The old saying goes "don't come to me with just problems, bring solutions, so that we can fix the problems together."
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CW4 (Join to see) It appears to me that SSG Cadet Jackie Radford (which I think means he was a SSG and is now a cadet?) took the "strong disagreement" approach and decided not to comment. Life goes on!
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CPT (Join to see) The XO at the school wrote something about all these issues and the WaPo picked it up:
Ranger School officer combats rumors about how women passed in pointed Facebook post
'We could have video recorded every patrol and you would still say that we 'gave' it away,' the executive officer of the Airborne and Ranger Training Brigade said.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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SSG Carlos Madden, The bitching comes from those with issues with women, the solution is to have these men compete against the Women Graduates, chances are they would still complain.
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