Posted on Jul 7, 2015
CW2 Thomas Martin
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How do you feel about Command teams that go from 2LT to LTC (and sometimes higher) in the same Brigade or Division? Should Senior Leaders be forced to rotate our and around more often?
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LTC Bink Romanick
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In the Armor branch the numbers of units has gotten much much smaller in all components. Its gotten like the old army where everyone knows everyone. It's common for both officers and NCOs to spend a lot of time in the. Same units.

A positive aspect of this is that it builds cohesion.
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As the good COL Mikel J. Burroughs stated this is what happens in the National Guard. In my state we have three Brigades. One is a BCT, then have a Sustainment BDE, and the last is a MEB. We also have a Troop Command but it is like a catch all for anyone left over. For me being an Infantry officer I will only be in the BCT. In the BCT we only have two Combined Arms Battalions. So there are only 4 true infantry companies. So we really can't move around. The staff jobs are shared with Armor Officers but they are in the same boat we are. There just isn't a slot for us in other units. I wouldn't mind going else where but it just isn't something that can happen.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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CPT (Join to see) I was fine up until I hit LTC, so just keep your options open. If you are able to get the key positions and Company Command time then stick with it. I really think it comes down to the MAJ, LTC, and COL positions that are available before you need to start looking.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs - Agreed in relation to the company command time. What we PLs look at is how is the favored one. In the Guard you will typically see a officer that has their career planned out for them already. If you have one of those then you are going to limited in our promotion potential. I am just looking for MAJ and I will be happy with that. I have about 14 years in already. I will be cutting it close. But I would willing ot serve more years if I could.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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CPT (Join to see) I wish the very best of luck. If you need to discuss LTC and beyond let me know. I should still be around.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs - I sure will. Thanks.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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CW2 Thomas Martin You see a lot of this in the Guard units throughout the country. For others and me this hasn't been a bad thing because we were company commanders within the same battalion (FSB) and then held a lot of the Staff Positions within the Battalion Headquarters and eventually became the Battalion Commander. Back in those days I was able to hold onto that command for over 4 years and really do some exciting things with the Battalion. I would think if you were given the same opportunity in the active component there could be good and there could be bad. Good from the standpoint that you will know the commands mission from the bottom-up and bad from that standpoint that too many individual may have known you when you were 2LT, didn't care for them then and won't really buy into their philosophy just because they get promoted and work their way up through the command team. I thought a lot of AD officers got moved every 2 to 4 years without fail and very rarely stayed in the command structure for their entire career. I guess I would have to know more about the situation you have and how it working or not?
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CW2 Thomas Martin
CW2 Thomas Martin
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COL Mike Burroughs, I can certainly see the benefits of a team that grows together and has the history and experience. I have also seen where it starts to slowly develop into a good old boy club and anyone on the outside has a hard time getting top blocks or good ratings. I truly don't believe that to be a widespread issue, but it does exist.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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CW2 Thomas Martin I have seen that too as well. That is why once I completed the War College I left the Illinois Army National Guard. There were favorites already picked for the key positions (O-6) and above, so I transferred in my career field to the Reserves. In my opinion you really have to apply yourself and interview for the positions in the Reserves, as well as apply for command positions and key staff positions once you hit O-5 and above. The Guard definitely has the "good old boy club" going on in the state I came from. If I offended any guard members I apologize. Just calling it the way I experienced it.
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Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA
Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA
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I served as an active duty officer at HQ Air Force Reserves in Warner Robbins AFB. GA. The advantage of the reserve component is the longevity of the staff and the trust-building among the staff. As stated earlier, the downside is loss of exposure to other experiences, and the development of "favorites" - the good ole boys. Just my humble opinion.
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