Posted on Aug 23, 2019
SSG Aj Hill
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My National Guard unit has scheduled two AT's with a muta 8 sandwiched in between. Does anyone know if that is legal, or where I could reference the regulations regarding the scheduling of training? We'll be heading out of state and be out of state for the entire duration of the AT-drill-AT. I feel like they're doing this to save a couple of bucks, but I'd like to be informed before I start any battles. Thanks for your help!
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SSG Carlos Madden
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Yes. They're doing that so instead of cutting one set or orders over 30+ days, they have you all on multiple sets of continuous orders, thus avoiding BAH.

IMO, avoiding that BAH is kind of BS because your soldiers likely are going to make much less with just their base pay than their civilian jobs and need that BAH to help cover the monthly costs. I know I'd be screwed if the Army sent me away for a month and only gave me base pay.
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LTC Ray B. (Ret)
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They just won’t get BAH MUTAS
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SSG Aj Hill
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This is exactly the issue I'm experiencing. I work in Key West, and it's expensive to live down here. I've got a great job, but it pays 3-4x what I get base pay with the Guard, and I have to make that much to not be homeless down here. I love my unit and the Guard, but we've got muta 8's every month along with additional training building up to mission next year. The scattered training with 1-2 weeks off in between are wreaking havoc on all of our civilian careers and finances. I have to drive 8 hours to get to my unit, so that also costs me a ton of time. Trying to talk to BN is like talking to a brick wall. There appears to be no consideration for the Soldiers when they're filling up the training schedule. After this all blows over, I think I'm going to have to walk away at 12 years service. I can suck it up, but when it starts threatening my family's well-being, I've got to walk.
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LTC Ray B. (Ret)
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It’s training they do any combination they want in order to meet training requirements. The only issues I see are travel but if they are doing a unit travel order then no issue.
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they can set it up anyway they want to, As long as the state is willing to pay for it. As a commander I only had to ensure I got all the days in required for a good year. and there were times we had a one day or half day of BA so we could stack up before AT, or maybe for a BN Range they wanted to do. In the end as long as the meet the requirement for the BA needed for a good year that is what matters.

Side question are you all getting ready to go somewhere?? Normally if the unit is gearing up would you kind of see this.
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