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Talking to a friend of mine that is in the Marines explained to me that senior NCOs have the choice to elect between leadership positions like 1SG/CSM or MSG/SGM this way it allows them to choose a path dedicated to staff positions or direct leadership should the Army considered this option for its Senior NCOs ?
Edited 10 y ago
Posted 10 y ago
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Yes, Marine Corps Staff Non-commissioned Officers (SNCOs) at the rank of GySgt (E7) have two potential routes, the career "fork-in-the-road" at this point is either higher-level leadership or technical/staff... there's the 1stSgt (E8) to SgtMaj (E9) that roughly equates to the CSM route, or the MSgt (E8) to MGySgt (E9) route. The education, grooming, and assignments are of course different for each route, I've attached the progression chart to provide a visual. Perhaps some currently serving Marines can provide a bit more info on the similarities/differences and pros vs. cons of this compared to the current Army system.
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SFC Stephen Carden
I like the flaming bomb versus the diamond. Plus, you get to be called "Master Guns". How cool is that? Seriously though, I worked with Marines on two AFG deployments, and the MGySgt that I had daily contact with impressed me as a guy who knew exactly what he was doing. I never once met the 1stSgt or SgtMaj.
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SFC Carden, great point and observation, and I couldn't agree more, I've had the distinct pleasure and professional privilege of being mentored by numerous MGySgts throughout the early portion of my career, both as an NCO and a young officer. Definitely provided a solid foundation, and I often refer back to those lessons, advice, and words of wisdom to this day... and yes, without-a-doubt nicknames just don't get any cooler than that! lol
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When you think about it, this is really the same as the discussions for whether or not to return to the Specialist 5 and above ranks only for pay grades 8-9. The same logic for and against would apply here as well.
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I think it's a good idea. I want to make E8 but I don't nessecarly want to be a 1SG. Not that I don't think it's important but I hate playing politics and 1SGs do quite a bit of that. Everyone has their calling maybe Soldiers know which route suits them best.
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