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Lt. Col. Vindman nomination to full Col turned down by White House.
Vindman Retiring From Army, Lawyer Blames Trump
Do you think Lt. Col Vindman should have had his promossion to Col. turned down?
Vindman Retiring From Army, Lawyer Blames Trump
Do you think Lt. Col Vindman should have had his promossion to Col. turned down?
Vindman Retiring From Army, Lawyer Blames Trump
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Posted 4 y ago
Responses: 19
Edited 4 y ago
Posted 4 y ago
Of course. Everything is Trump's fault, isn't it? I am not a Vindman fan. While in uniform stay OUT of politics
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MCPO Roger Collins
4 y
SSG (Join to see) Actually, as a Senator, she can. From Commissioned officers of the seven uniformed services of the United States—the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Corps, and Public Health Service Commissioned Corps—are all officers of the United States. Under current law, the Senate does not require the commissions of all military officers to be confirmed; however, anyone being first promoted to major in the Army, Air Force, or Marine Corps, or lieutenant commander in the Navy, does require such confirmation. This results in several hundred promotions that annually must be confirmed by the Senate, though these are typically confirmed en masse without individual hearings.
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SGT Bruce Doxey
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Sorry Charlie! Vindman ALWAYS did the right thing. He did nothing wrong, but in this administration doing the right thing is wrong. Totally Trumpian values hurt everyone close to the pres.
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Edited 4 y ago
Posted 4 y ago
LTC Vindman should indeed retire and go away. If he truly saw/heard something he thought was wrong, we have systems for reporting impropriety in the Army. There are proper channels for that sort of thing. Instead, Vindman circumvented the entire chain of command and went running to the press and the DNC. This is a violation of the chain of command, and is inexcusable.
Vindman also wore his dress uniform to a partisan political hearing. He was NOT representing the U.S. Army, and thus violated uniform regulations that bar servicemembers from wearing the uniform to political events. He thought he was "all that" in his uniform. What most people don't know, is that a LTC in the Pentagon/D.C. is like a 2LT anywhere else. My dad was assigned to the Pentagon for a bit, and as a LTC, he said that his main job was making coffee for the Generals.
Officers like Vindman should NOT be promoted, and should indeed be removed one way or another, as they set the wrong example for junior Officers coming up the ranks in the future. When you allow violations of The Standard, you just set a new (lower) standard.
Vindman also wore his dress uniform to a partisan political hearing. He was NOT representing the U.S. Army, and thus violated uniform regulations that bar servicemembers from wearing the uniform to political events. He thought he was "all that" in his uniform. What most people don't know, is that a LTC in the Pentagon/D.C. is like a 2LT anywhere else. My dad was assigned to the Pentagon for a bit, and as a LTC, he said that his main job was making coffee for the Generals.
Officers like Vindman should NOT be promoted, and should indeed be removed one way or another, as they set the wrong example for junior Officers coming up the ranks in the future. When you allow violations of The Standard, you just set a new (lower) standard.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
4 y
Surprising me not at all, SSG(P) (Join to see)'s post is completely wrong. LTC Vindman was responding to a subpoena. Unless Trump invoked executive privilege, which he did not, Vindman was required to testify and would be committing a crime to refuse to testify. Second, you are making allegations of criminal behavior against a serving officer. You need to tread very carefully, because that is a clear violation of the UCMJ, both at Art. 89 and at Art. 134.
Next, Vindman was subpoenaed to testify as a serving officer assigned to the White House. It was not only appropriate for him to wear the Army Service Uniform, see AR 670-1.
Next, Vindman was subpoenaed to testify as a serving officer assigned to the White House. It was not only appropriate for him to wear the Army Service Uniform, see AR 670-1.
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SSG Byron Hewett
4 y
Vindman was just a bad egg altogether any way and was looking to make a name for himself.... he did that but it all backfired glad he's gone. he dishonored his uniform and himself.
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Posted 4 y ago
There are a couple things wrong with your set-up to the question. Lt Cols are not "nominated" to full Colonel, and Vindman never HAD a promotion to Colonel, so it was never "turned down." There is no guarantee, and no expectation, of promotion to Colonel. It is a competitive, performance-and-potential-based promotion process.
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LCpl Brad Gross
4 y
Goodbye their is no troops or unit if he was commander that would ever respect him just his rank go write a book and cry on CNN maybe they will hire you
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CW4 Guy Butler
4 y
Col Joseph Lenertz He was selected to start the Army War College this year, so yes - he was selected for promotion.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
4 y
Col Joseph Lenertz - I'm not saying that he would have been selected, I'm stating categorically that he was selected, his name was to be submitted to Trump, and Trump said that would not forward the promotion list for approval by the Senate with Vindman's name on it. You're a bird colonel, you should know very well that the Senate has to confirm O-6s and above.
"Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper had officially signed off Monday on the list of officers slated to be promoted to colonel, with Vindman’s name on it. . ." Washington Post, 7/8/20
"Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper had officially signed off Monday on the list of officers slated to be promoted to colonel, with Vindman’s name on it. . ." Washington Post, 7/8/20
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SSG Byron Hewett
4 y
Mr. Vindman is gone and its over, I think Army moral just went up a few notches.
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