Posted on Mar 19, 2014
SGM Matthew Quick
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I, like many others, enjoy military history (ok, I'm a dork) and visiting historical locations.

Being from the 'North' (New York) and raised to believe General Grant (good guy) was more important than General Lee (bad guy)...looking at the situation from both sides, I now have a better understanding.

NOTE:  When responding with who you feel was more important (this question is vague for a reason), try to give an example and let the audience know what state you were raised in (to establish Civil War education background).
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I think this is almost an impossible to answer question.  Obviously, both Generals were important to each others side.

-General Lee inspired his men.
-General Lee was daring and aggressive/offensive
-General Lee for the most part delegated his authority well..

General Lee had the admiration of his country most of his time in leadership and faced very little backlash from the press at the height of his campaigns (Fredricksburg, Chancellorsville) and also had some great Generals beneath him (Jackson, Longstreet).

General Grant did many of the same things, but in different ways.  However, the reason I would give the tip of the hat to Grant is this:

Only two Generals on the Northern side really understood what it took to win the war.  Too many of Grant's successors wanted to take Richmond, etc.  Grant and Sherman, however, realized that it would take Total War to successfully win the war.  This meant destroying property, instilling fear in the citizenry, and taking the war to areas that had largely avoided conflict (Atlanta). 

Grant also largely accomplished his successes on the battlefield while trying to fend off politicians and superiors who wanted to dismiss him from his position, and also dealing with insubordinate underlings.  Lee, in contrast, rarely had to deal with either of those two issues.

Grant also realized that his largest advantage was in supplies and men.  While many could say that in the final years of the war a lot of Union soldiers were wasted, Grant could afford to take the slaughter, and Lee could not.

This is just a tidbit of my thoughts, this is an issue that could be discussed more in depth easily.
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I think it is interesting that they are both WestPoint graduates.  Both were considered great leaders but General Lee is directly credited for his military tactics in winning battles.  
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Lee was also second in his class at West Point where as grant was Somewhere near the bottom. Does anyone know who was first in that class and what he went on to do?
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Charles Mason graduated first in the class that Lee finished second.  Mason served as a Prof. of Engineering at West Point, and served as a Chief Justice on the Iowa Supreme Court.  It seems as if he largely escaped notoriety within the military, other than his record at West Point.
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Grant was closer to the middle, 21 out of 39.
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Also remember that Lee was offered command of the Union Army, but turned it down, as he could not take up arms against his native Virginia. Had he taken that command, I think the resulting outcome would have been the same. The true downfall of the Confederacy was supplies and logistics. It could not get the supplies it needed to fight the war. I think that, once the war was over, Lee would not have pursued a political career.
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Everyone on this post has talked about Lee's tactical brilliance. I would dispute that. In his early engagements, he was quite timid, only becoming more aggressive as the war progressed. He made several tactical blunders that lost significant battles, culminating in the ill-advised frontal assault on day three of the battle of Gettysburg. His troops were soundly defeated, and arguably this was the turning point of the war.
Who was more important? I would have to say Lee. As a southerner, you might expect me to say that, but my reasons are unexpected. Lee was a staunchly loyal, 32-year veteran of the US Army by the time he resigned. He had performed well in the Mexican-American war (alongside GEN Grant) under Winfield Scott, was the commander that defeated John Brown and his abolitionists at Harper's Ferry, and was the superintendant of the USMA. He refused the command of the defense of Washington D.C. because he felt it may require him to attack his home state. He was against secession, saying "I shall never bear arms against the Union, but it may be necessary for me to carry a musket in the defense of my native state, Virginia, in which case I shall not prove recreant to my duty." When Virginia seceded from the Union, he was true to his word.
Lee was originally the commander of Virginian forces, eventually rising to the position of military advisor to Jefferson Davis, and then to General-in-Chief of confederate forces. He was obsessed with building elaborate trench systems (a precursor to WWI trench fighting) and excelled at the defense of Savannah using coastal gun batteries, both natural for a former combat engineer. He was widely thought of, after initial blunders, as a good tactical commander but short on strategic vision.
Why was Lee more important? First, his poor tactics directly contributed to the northern victory, allowing the war to end and the nation to heal and move on. Second, when Grant called for his surrender at Appomattox Court House, some of his officers called for him to reject the surrender and allow them to continue the war in the form of guerrilla warfare, riding in small bands through the mountains and countryside. Lee refused and accepted the surrender. Again, he prevented what could have been a long, costly counter-guerrilla campaign.
I am a southerner, but first, I am an American. Had Lee not been just a little less effective than Grant, who knows what kind of country we would be living in right now? (BTW, Lee was in favor of emancipating the slaves, and even supported the idea of deporting them all back to Africa as a gesture of reconciliation and returning them to their homeland)He was a great man and a great General, but the best thing he could have ever done for the country was lose the war.
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