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SSG Michael Hartsfield
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I say it's his right and his right TO do that is what we as a military fight to uphold.
Voltaire said "I may not like what you say but I will defend your right to say it."
If you don't like what he stands for, say it with your wallet.
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SFC Senior Supply Sergeant
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CPT (Join to see) - "racially driven political statement" is a retort and not a solution. There is nothing wrong with a racially driven political statement if it is done in an attempt to end racial injustices. He was not attempting to divide people racially just bring attention to racial disparity when it comes to policing people of color. Try look at it from his perspective.
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SFC (Join to see) - Thank you for advising me that this is a military forum, you dumb narcissistic ignorant piece of ???. Show some respect for your fellow brothers by not calling anyone a liar, particularly those that might have more integrity than you.
Again, thank you for your Ugly coment next time keep it to yourself.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
MAJ Byron Oyler
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SFC (Join to see) - You do not have issues with white people making racially driven statements? What if a white person got on the news and said blacks need to stop getting preferential treatment for police and fire fighting jobs, you would be ok with that as that is a form of racial injustice.
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MAJ Byron Oyler - I haven't nor will I ever claim that whites get preferential treatment, only that minorities don't get treated fairly. And I wouldn't have a comment on that because I do not have any information as to whether or not they actually do get preferential treatment. If that is in fact true. I would have absolutely no problem at all with a white person going in TV and saying that.
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LTC David Brown
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just trying to understand the NEW America. You can sit and protest America during the national anthem BUT if you are a committed Christian and express it you are very controversial? Seems freedom of speech trumps freedom of religion? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/football/in-tebow-debate-a-clash-of-faith-and-football.html
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LTC David Brown
LTC David Brown
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SPC Paul Hartman - well it is easy to pull one scripture but we are commanded to preach the Gospel to the world. We are commanded to let our light shine and not hide it under a basket. I am very happy Wilberforce and other anti slavery advocates didn't hide their light under a bushel basket. I suggest you read Mathew 5:13-16, Mark 16 : 14-16, Matthew 28: 16-20, Now we can read the Book of Acts where the Apostles did just what Jesus requested. The result? Rome became Christian, the death games (gladiatorial games ) were ended. In recent history slavery was ended and missionaries have provided medical treatment and care to poverty stricken people around the World. Consider that among the few people treating Ebola patients in rural Africa were Christians. Far from sharia law.
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SFC Senior Supply Sergeant
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Fortunately I was taught that regardless of the religion I choose and no matter how much I believe, it doesn't trump anyone else's religion. That's what tolerance is and that's why churches have a tax exempt status so you can go there and worship without interference from outside entities. If we start to allow Christians to openly worship wherever they want you have to allow all other religions to do so as well. If it was a committed Muslim doing what Tebow did it would've been the same people who support Tebow screaming bloody murder..... literally.
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LTC David Brown
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SFC (Join to see) - well it is like free speech, and such be accommodated.. The First Amendment restricts the government not practioners of religion.
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LTC David Brown - I can't argue with facts.
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PFC Fire Support Specialist
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I think if he really thinks that black people and people of color are oppressed, then he should do something about it other than being disrespectful in a petty protest. Especially considering he's in such a privileged position. The very fact that he's a person of color who earned a 12 million dollar signing bonus shows how counterintuitive this protest is. You can't ignore all the soldiers who have lost life and limb for the flag and our liberties and I think that's worth more than any diversity uprising of the present. I'll defend his right to sit, but doesn't mean I agree with it.
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SGT Damaso V Santana
SGT Damaso V Santana
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Thank you, well said.
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Cpl D L Parker
Cpl D L Parker
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I believe he mention he has nothing against the Military. You can protest one with protesting the other.
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Cpl D L Parker - I want to thank you for your comment corporal. My point was that what the American flag and national anthem represent as an American totem and tradition is worth more than any current civil issues within the country. Remembering those who fought for those traditions is worth standing for.
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