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Yes... Let's make this a FELONY... Why not?
Thoughts...
Thoughts...
New York Weighs State Ban On Stolen Valor
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I don't know about a felony, but there should be some repercussion. I'd support a fine and plastering the fakes in the paper under the court reports like they used to with traffic fines and other criminal acts. It was a strong deterrent at least in small town America where everyone know you.
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COL (Join to see)
OK, CSM... if you faked your JD or MD degree... what is the penalty?
I don't see distinction in a counterfeit / diploma mill scams... we are trained "professinal" leaders... no institution does that...
http://www.counterfeitdegrees.com/law/
I don't see distinction in a counterfeit / diploma mill scams... we are trained "professinal" leaders... no institution does that...
http://www.counterfeitdegrees.com/law/
How Do Laws Regulate Diploma Mills and Fake Degrees?
The laws regulating degree mills and bogus diploma businesses are in relative infancy. States are largely in charge of diploma mills on their territory, but the porosity of the Internet combined with the vagaries of the consumerism behind the business must first be understood.
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CSM Richard StCyr
Good point! I grew up in small town America where people didn't have the anonymity that urban life provides and the subsequent opportunity for the dregs to bullshit people because of what that anonymity provides. The old guys all knew chapter and verse what the other guys did and didn't do.
I've also seen since moving to the Ozarks the effects of what felony convictions for things have on people. They become even worse crooks it seems because they can't get work. So while I'd like nothing more than to see the fakers get their butts handed to them; I'd prefer they be humbled/ embarrassed and called out than have yet another heathen stealing my gas and tools out of my shop because they can't get a job.
I've also seen since moving to the Ozarks the effects of what felony convictions for things have on people. They become even worse crooks it seems because they can't get work. So while I'd like nothing more than to see the fakers get their butts handed to them; I'd prefer they be humbled/ embarrassed and called out than have yet another heathen stealing my gas and tools out of my shop because they can't get a job.
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The thing is that stolen valor for the purpose of someone gaining a tangible benifit as it sits now is a federal law. By making it a state law it increases the chances. Most states do have some sort of laws that address theft by deception but by specifically addressing military phonoes it would give prosecutors a better chance of getting a conviction.
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If credentials are used for monatary gain then it should be fraud. The amount should determine the severity of the charge.
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