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CSM Richard StCyr
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I don't know about a felony, but there should be some repercussion. I'd support a fine and plastering the fakes in the paper under the court reports like they used to with traffic fines and other criminal acts. It was a strong deterrent at least in small town America where everyone know you.
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OK, CSM... if you faked your JD or MD degree... what is the penalty?
I don't see distinction in a counterfeit / diploma mill scams... we are trained "professinal" leaders... no institution does that...
http://www.counterfeitdegrees.com/law/
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CSM Richard StCyr
CSM Richard StCyr
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Good point! I grew up in small town America where people didn't have the anonymity that urban life provides and the subsequent opportunity for the dregs to bullshit people because of what that anonymity provides. The old guys all knew chapter and verse what the other guys did and didn't do.
I've also seen since moving to the Ozarks the effects of what felony convictions for things have on people. They become even worse crooks it seems because they can't get work. So while I'd like nothing more than to see the fakers get their butts handed to them; I'd prefer they be humbled/ embarrassed and called out than have yet another heathen stealing my gas and tools out of my shop because they can't get a job.
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LTC Marc King
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The Supreme Court has ruled that the military is a unique society not subject to all of the protections of the Constitution such as free speech. This is so in the interest of maintaining good order and discipline. That being the case it seems logical that seek to identify with our unique society be subjected to the same rules. If Stolen Valor is an expression of "free speech " and the military has forfeited that right in the interest of good order and discipline then there is no free speech protections for the Thief and it should be a felony offense. Those who would steal in this manner are low life dregs who need to be dealt with in a most severe manner. It's not funny, it's a crime perpetrated against ever Veteran who did their duty honorably. Especially those who did not return. I really hate quoting the French but I will make an exception in this case and say:"Off With Their Heads" ... Harsh but deserved.
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CSM Richard StCyr
CSM Richard StCyr
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Hey; what's wrong with the French, they've occasionally done well.
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LTC Marc King
LTC Marc King
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CSM Richard StCyr - CSM with all due respect.... Not really a "Great" track record... I'll give you occasional... But they don't seem to be important occasions. It would have been great to see them pull the trigger on Article 5 a short time back but the came up short yet again. Thanks for your service
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
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The thing is that stolen valor for the purpose of someone gaining a tangible benifit as it sits now is a federal law. By making it a state law it increases the chances. Most states do have some sort of laws that address theft by deception but by specifically addressing military phonoes it would give prosecutors a better chance of getting a conviction.
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