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Some people will see this as nothing other than a total whitewash.
Other people can do arithmetic.
Other people can do arithmetic.
State would need 75 years to compile Clinton emails
Posted from thehill.com
Hillary Clinton
Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
Security
Election 2016
Posted 8 y ago
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PO1 John Miller
SPC Andrew Griffin
Read the article. I think it does a pretty good job of explaining why it would take so long. You've also got to consider any attachments to these emails.
Read the article. I think it does a pretty good job of explaining why it would take so long. You've also got to consider any attachments to these emails.
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1SG Michael Bonnett
Actually the State Department is lying just about every other line of what is mentioned in the article. 20 Minutes max, not 75 years....
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COL Ted Mc
1SG Michael Bonnett - First; I suppose that it could be done in 20 minutes (except that it would take longer than that just to transmit the data).
Of course the simplest way of doing it would be for "State" to send "Justice" an eMail that says simply "Here you are." and which contains 450,000 pages of uncollated and unlabelled attachments (BTW, the stack of documents would be roughly 1,358' 3.25" thick if printed out and "State" could comply with the demand from "Justice" by printing out all of the documents and then mixing up all of the pages in a giant cement mixer before delivery [the demand didn't specify that the documents had to be sorted and labelled].)
Of course the simplest way of doing it would be for "State" to send "Justice" an eMail that says simply "Here you are." and which contains 450,000 pages of uncollated and unlabelled attachments (BTW, the stack of documents would be roughly 1,358' 3.25" thick if printed out and "State" could comply with the demand from "Justice" by printing out all of the documents and then mixing up all of the pages in a giant cement mixer before delivery [the demand didn't specify that the documents had to be sorted and labelled].)
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1SG Michael Bonnett
500 pages x 12 x 75 is 450, 000 pages and since we are talking text which averages 662,000 pages per megabytes we are talking 2 Megabytes, not gigabytes so I was wrong... Not twenty minutes to transfer....2 seconds....
We can throw in all the attachments and multiply by 100 and we are still talking 3 to four minutes....for the transfer....
We can throw in all the attachments and multiply by 100 and we are still talking 3 to four minutes....for the transfer....
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Yes, one can just imagine if the federal government came to you or a company (private or public) and asked you to produce documents as part of an audit, a regulatory issue or a court case etc. and you told them it would take you 75 years to comply. How do you think that would go over. This is more bovine stool from this administration.
According to them, they can only process 500 pages per month or about 25 pages per day. So there solution is to take 75 years, not to leverage some sort of technology or hire more people like they would tell you to do if they wanted your documents. You have to be a complete rube to accept this story from the Department of State. Justice delayed is justice denied and that is all they are trying to do. This will now have to go through the legal process for them to be told they must comply much more quickly.
According to them, they can only process 500 pages per month or about 25 pages per day. So there solution is to take 75 years, not to leverage some sort of technology or hire more people like they would tell you to do if they wanted your documents. You have to be a complete rube to accept this story from the Department of State. Justice delayed is justice denied and that is all they are trying to do. This will now have to go through the legal process for them to be told they must comply much more quickly.
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COL Ted Mc
Cpl Jeff N. - Corporal; You are quite correct that "State" could process the documents a whole lot faster if it wasn't limited to the number of trained employees it had and the size of its budget.
"The Only Proper Course Of Action" is for Congress to get together and unanimously pass legislation granting the State Department an unlimited budget and giving it authority to hire an unlimited number of people for an unlimited amount of time.
This, of course, is what is known as "Promoting Small Government and Preventing Bloated Government Spending".
"The Only Proper Course Of Action" is for Congress to get together and unanimously pass legislation granting the State Department an unlimited budget and giving it authority to hire an unlimited number of people for an unlimited amount of time.
This, of course, is what is known as "Promoting Small Government and Preventing Bloated Government Spending".
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Cpl Jeff N.
COL Ted Mc Ted, the State Department has discretionary budget dollars they can use and they can also reassign existing resources. It isn't as though there is no "fat" at the State Department.
You and I both know this is a delay tactic, plain and simple and you or I would have a visit from the Feds if we tried this tactic.
You and I both know this is a delay tactic, plain and simple and you or I would have a visit from the Feds if we tried this tactic.
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COL Ted Mc
Cpl Jeff N. - Corporal; "Discretionary Funds" can only be used within the budgetary parameters previously established. If there are no funds set aside for "unexpected demands for the examination and redaction of eMails" then it would be a violation of proper accounting practices for "State" to move funds out of some other budget category and into that one without going through the legally mandated budgetary approval steps.
Face it, you are playing with "The Big Boys" here and they DO know what "The Rules" are (and not just what they appear to be or what you would like them to be).
Face it, you are playing with "The Big Boys" here and they DO know what "The Rules" are (and not just what they appear to be or what you would like them to be).
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Since I am now an IT guy, I can tell you a collection of what the State Department listed out of Enterprise mail servers would take about 20 minutes....The rest is printing but since we have this thing called electronic file storage devices that is just bullshit....
Watch what happens when the Judge gives them a few weeks or go to prison...
Watch what happens when the Judge gives them a few weeks or go to prison...
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COL Ted Mc
1SG Michael Bonnett - First; Indeed "State" COULD do a massive "data dump" but what if something that was "classified" was included in that "data dump" and it fell into the hands of someone who didn't have the requisite security clearance?
BTW, have you even considered that at 120 WPM (estimated reading speed for 100% comprehension) it would take approximately 3,906.25 hours (that's 162.75 24 hour days) simply to READ those 450,000 pages of documents?
BTW, have you even considered that at 120 WPM (estimated reading speed for 100% comprehension) it would take approximately 3,906.25 hours (that's 162.75 24 hour days) simply to READ those 450,000 pages of documents?
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1SG Michael Bonnett
Pretty sure all the FBI guys on this case have a security clearance and there is this highly secure network it would go over... and I am sure there is more than one FBI guy on the case, throw in this modern feature called "Search" and it will go quick enough for her to be in prison by Christmas...
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