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Capt Tom Brown
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CSM (Join to see) The mayor of Oakland recently used similar terms concerning an ongoing investigation into the local police department.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/18/oakland_mayor_blasts_frat_house_police_as_third_chief_steps_down.html
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CSM Geologist
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I think it is fairly new, but I do not know. Interesting that you found it, too. Do you think there is something to it?
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CSM (Join to see) - I believe there is something to it. A number of hits on Google search including this one from 2013. Must admit I had never heard the expression before but it offers a good explanation of a lot of things. Maybe an extension of the old-fashion machoism.
http://prospect.org/article/toxic-masculinity
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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Thanks for the article and no - this is a new term to me. Have a great weekend.
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CSM Geologist
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I know I am trying to find out if it is a viable term or not. It was new to me, too.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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This is the typical leftist psychobabble we get after almost every terror incident these days. The deflection away from the root cause of the attack in order to advance a political cause. We know enough about the shooter to understand his motivation and where he gained his "inspiration" for the attack. It wasn't some sort of "he man woman haters club" masculinity motivation. Radical islam was him motivation, the Koran his guidebook. He attended his mosque regularly and ended up thinking it is okay to murder people different than you.

Remember, he cased other locations as well. He picked this one for reasons. Likely because of the number of people that would be there at that time of the early morning, the density of targets and islam's view on killing homosexuals. It is practiced and supported by too many in that religion and by countries that have that religion as the cornerstone of their legal system.
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CSM Geologist
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So do you think this is a viable term? I had never heard of it before, but I am not a psychologist or sociologist.
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CSM Geologist
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Do you believe it is a political term? I have not checked to see if it published in a journal so I do not know.
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Cpl Jeff N.
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CSM (Join to see) . It is a term used in modern feminist circles to attack what more traditional men are/were in our society. It is a s viable as you allow it to be. I think it is poppycock but that is just me. You also have to define it which can be dicey. You throw the word toxic in front of any word as an adjective and it will not have a positive connotation.

The view seems to be that masculine men are emotionless, violent and a host of other negative characteristics. Without masculinity there is not really a western civilization. We got here through necessary violence at times done mostly by men.

I think we have benefited from the role of masculine men in our culture. Did men of previous generations have appropriate masculinity or toxic masculinity? Did the men at Trenton and Concord, Gettysburg, San Juan Hill, The Somme, Belleau Wood, Normandy, Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Hue City, Fallujah, Helmand Province etc. etc. etc. This notion that we need to tamp down men that are masculine or exhibit masculine characteristics is modern pop, feminist psychology.

These sorts of attacks are simply more of the attempt to break down gender identity, the perceived patriarchy we have in modern western society and to cause us to look the wrong way when problem solving.

Is there such a thing as toxic femininity?
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