Posted on Jun 24, 2016
Ban on transgender troops to be lifted July 1
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I'm obviously happy about this.
Ban on transgender troops to be lifted July 1
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I support this just like I did with the repeal of DADT. Those who wish to serve, should be able if possible.
My questions are:
Which APFT/height weight standard and what quantifies someone testing under a certain gender?
Latrice facilities. Will there be facilities for those going through transition and upon completion they go to their identified/physical gender? I personally support gender neutral latrines. One stop for all.
I'm sure guidance will come forward. I just hope it will be non discriminatory and equal for all across the board.
My questions are:
Which APFT/height weight standard and what quantifies someone testing under a certain gender?
Latrice facilities. Will there be facilities for those going through transition and upon completion they go to their identified/physical gender? I personally support gender neutral latrines. One stop for all.
I'm sure guidance will come forward. I just hope it will be non discriminatory and equal for all across the board.
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SGM Billy Herrington These are all good questions and, I think, why they took so long past their origional deadline. Lots of tough questions to make a policy for. I am 100% for open transgender service, and I trust our leadership will address these issues and more . . . I mean there are probably some things we will have to learn and adjust fire for as we go. It will be bumpy, but if we are so inflexible that we cannot make this work, then how will we be able to be flexible when people's lives are on the line in combat.
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This type of decision making is well above my pay grade, and rightfully so. However, I am curious as to what PT standards they will fall under and what accommodations will be made as far showers. I personally think this whole gender segregation thing is ridiculous. The Australian Navy has "co-ed" facilities and are mature and respectful enough of one another for it not to be a problem. It is so "taboo" in American culture people think it would never work - I on the other hand believe it would become the "norm" after the first few weeks.. Those who sexually harass others or violate someones rights should be handled swiftly and appropriately. There is no reason that men and women cannot share the same rest room other than the stigma behind it. These are grown adults, servicemen and women who have been trained relentlessly on what is RIGHT and what is WRONG. Respect others. We shouldnt have to segregate ADULTS based on their gender - rather we should EXPECT more out of our men and women, brothers and sisters in arms, and like the Australian Navy, have gender neutral facilities... I got off on a tangent there, but I still believe I have an arguably good point.
As far as PT standards go, however - that I don't have an answer to. Perhaps "job specific" PT standards across the board. A minimum of what EVERYONE needs to achieve.. Anything past that could be points towards advancement? Then again, that would have some crying that it is "unfair" because men, in general, can achieve higher numbers... perhaps PT should only be a pass/fail when it comes to advancement?
What do you think?
As far as PT standards go, however - that I don't have an answer to. Perhaps "job specific" PT standards across the board. A minimum of what EVERYONE needs to achieve.. Anything past that could be points towards advancement? Then again, that would have some crying that it is "unfair" because men, in general, can achieve higher numbers... perhaps PT should only be a pass/fail when it comes to advancement?
What do you think?
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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I've wondered the same thing on PT standards, and to be honest, I don't have an answer either. They will work it out, they always have in the past.
I've wondered the same thing on PT standards, and to be honest, I don't have an answer either. They will work it out, they always have in the past.
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ENS (Join to see) - I agree with the idea of job specific PT standards. Being a SWO on the bridge of a destroyer has very different physical challenges from those of a pilot. However, within the confines of the current system, transgender service members will be held to the same standards as the gender they transition to. This means that people who go from female to male (FTM) will be expected to meet the male standards, and people who go from male to female (MTF) will be expected to meet the female standards. After being on hormones for even just a few months, your physical abilities change drastically. A FTM service member would be taking testosterone, and would be able to bulk up quickly, run faster, have better endurance, and so on. For an example, look up SrA Logan Ireland of the USAF. There is no question that he should take a male PT test, because he tends to knock it out of the park. A MTF service member (such as myself) would take a combination of estrogen and a testosterone-suppressing hormone. I have been on these for some time, and as a result, my physical endurance has plummeted, my strength has dropped, and my ability to gain and maintain muscle has been severely hindered. I am now on a level playing field with most other females at my age. I still can pass the male PT standards, because I have to. However, it is significantly much harder now than it ever was before. My 1.5 mile run slowed from 9:50 to around 13 minutes because of the hormones I am on.
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