Posted on Sep 30, 2016
A principled option for U.S. president: Endorsing Gary Johnson, Libertarian
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It's not very smart to throw one's vote away on "principle." Keep in mind that when you vote for a non-viable candidate, it takes your vote away from the viable candidate you'd otherwise have voted for, thus helping the opponent who you probably don't want in office.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
Unless there is no viable candidate that you would have voted for.
Honestly, I can't wait for that view to die out. Voting for the best of two bad options is what got us where we are today, and I would much rather cast a vote for a candidate than to waste it voting against one.
Honestly, I can't wait for that view to die out. Voting for the best of two bad options is what got us where we are today, and I would much rather cast a vote for a candidate than to waste it voting against one.
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Maj Rob Drury
PFC Jim Wheeler - I understand your point, but it's irrelevant. We have who we have, so the lesser of the available evils is how we must vote. Otherwise, we improve the chances for the greater evil.
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SGT Tony Clifford
That is a very selfish thing to say. You're essentially saying that people should lose their voice to make someone else's voice louder, presumably yours. The only wasted vote is for someone you don't believe in.
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Maj Rob Drury
SGT Tony Clifford - Not in the slightest. I'm simply stating the mathematical realities of the situation. If anyone wants to piss away their vote, that's their right. It is the system that has stolen people's voices.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
Maj Rob Drury - The electoral college system makes it to where that really doesn't matter.
Even if I voted for HC, the electoral votes in Texas would go to Trump.
So my vote for either of them doesn't matter at all, the only vote I can place that does matter is for the actual candidate I support in the hopes that it helps in the future.
Even if I voted for HC, the electoral votes in Texas would go to Trump.
So my vote for either of them doesn't matter at all, the only vote I can place that does matter is for the actual candidate I support in the hopes that it helps in the future.
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Maj Rob Drury
PFC Jim Wheeler - I agree. Only in the swing states is it even slightly relevant. I'm not sure how that gets fixed.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
PFC Jim Wheeler - Living in South Dakota, I face the same quandary. I am a progressive Democrat. There are two chances of any Democrat being elected up here: slim and none.
However, I will still do my duty and vote.
However, I will still do my duty and vote.
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It won't be for this election but it will set the stage for argument over the next four years that the whole process is dishonest and the national debate should automatically have all recognized party candidates on the stage.
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PFC Jim Wheeler
That's my hope. If he can just get on one of the debates this year, that would help immensely.
If not, building any awareness and hopefully crossing that 5% threshold in the election will help establish the Libertarian party.
If not, building any awareness and hopefully crossing that 5% threshold in the election will help establish the Libertarian party.
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