Posted on Jan 4, 2017
American Soldiers Will Now Be Able to Wear Turbans, Beards, Hijabs, and Cornrows
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Is this wrong, or is it time to change? Is this just a political move before the innoguration? Have our military forces suffered these past 200 years without beards and dreadlocks?
American Soldiers Will Now Be Able to Wear Turbans, Beards, Hijabs, and Cornrows
Posted from theatlantic.com
Barack Obama
SECDEF
Political Correctness
Posted >1 y ago
Responses: 11
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Bad idea. You can't half open the door on items like this because it impacts discpline directly, either the door is wide open or it is all the way closed. Furthermore the exceptions they are granting are for tiny religious minorities of less than 1% while rejecting exceptions for religious majorities serving (example: wearing a cruicifix under the uniform is still banned as the wearing of "jewelry"). It's not going to work and the Army will eventually have to either reverse itself here or open the door all the way to wearing of religious articles by everyone and not just a chosen few.
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SPC Erich Guenther
CW4 Guy Butler - The problem with that AR as usual is in the interpretation, the chain of the crucifix is visible on the back of the neck #1, #2 the Cross of the Cruicifix can be deemed a hazzard to the Soldier to wear during Combat drills.......both leading to the prohibition of wear. Only exception I have sometimes seen...get by when I was in uniform was oval medals hung from the dog tag chain which could be considered interfering with special equipment but usually overlooked because they are not visible unless a specific dog tag inspection is done. Psst, notice the other Infantryman that read the post agreed. It's the difference between being in a support unit vs an Infantry unit........again. Also, another small exception is Airborne units allow the wear of the St. Micheal medal in most cases because he is the patron saint of paratroopers and obviously that is due to the tie in with Airborne Espirit De Corps but good luck getting by with wearing a crucifix.
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CW4 Guy Butler
SPC Erich Guenther - that's the one I wear; designed for Soldiers in WWI. Never had a problem wearing it.
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MAJ Norm Michaels
So, the bottom line is that Christians must pretty much hide their religious apparel while these new minority religions can flaunt theirs?
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SPC Erich Guenther
CW4 Guy Butler - OK might be your unit but you know it doesn't look that religious to me.
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The last insult, of a long series of insults over the last 8 years. One more thing for Trump to set right.
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SSG (Join to see)
This "insult" is simply a response to ongoing litigation. The door was opened back in 1986 when congress passed a law allowing members of the military to wear religious apparel.
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SSG Mark Colwell
I believe it was wrong in 1986 and I believe it’s wrong in 2017. While I realize religious accommodations are allowed with restrictions: where is the separation of church and state? Where are all the people who usually ask this question? No one “should be able” to show anything religious on their uniform; if they feel that much of a need then they are free to find a different job. Where are all the people who usually make this argument?
I believe it was wrong in 1986 and I believe it’s wrong in 2017. While I realize religious accommodations are allowed with restrictions: where is the separation of church and state? Where are all the people who usually ask this question? No one “should be able” to show anything religious on their uniform; if they feel that much of a need then they are free to find a different job. Where are all the people who usually make this argument?
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