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Racial problems will not go away until people accept white supremacists are not the only racist groups in our country. It strikes to the core of racism when one group that supports entirely on race and is not seen as racist but another is. We should condemn all racist groups, not just white ones.
Trump -- again -- fails to condemn alt-right
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Trump has called out those engaging in violence. I don't recall him specifically calling out antifa or the black bloc either. There is no more reason to condemn the alt-right than there is to condemn the far left. CNN is tilting at phony windmills ... again.
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How would condemning a group change facts: local elected officials of a State authorized a group to assemble. Two other groups also assembled without permits and formed a counter protest to/against the group with a permit. Chaos ensues and Leftist/Communists now point the finger of responsibility toward a higher level of government and to the Executive Leader for a special call- out? POTUS has other geo-political issues to work, this is why each State has an executive leader.
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COL Korey Jackson
To clarify:
The Commonwealth of Virginia did not issue or grant the assembly permit for Saturday, 12 August, in Emancipation Park; that was the City of Charlottesville, back on June 13th.
Then, on August 7th, upon recognizing the upcoming hazards and potential for violence of the Unite the Right Rally (and counterprotesters) in the confined downtown area of Emancipation Park, the city modified the permit changing the 12 August assembly location to McIntire Park.
The "Unite the Right" organization, with the support of the ACLU, took the city to federal court arguing against the city's rally permit venue modifications.
On Friday, at 8pm, Federal US District Judge Conrad stayed the change of venue decision by the city, permitting the assembly to continue in Emancipation Park.
http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park
Following Judge Conrad's decision late Friday, Mayor Mike Signer of Charlottesville released a statement which stated:
"While the City is disappointed by tonight's ruling we will abide by the judge's decision. The goal in moving the Unite the Right Rally from Emancipation Park to a larger, more accommodating space like McIntire Park had nothing to do with the content of the demonstrators' speech. The decision was made based on the projected number of demonstrators expected in our one acre park in downtown and the public safety needs of our community."
Shortly thereafter, late on Friday, several hundred torch-bearing men and women marched on the main quadrangle of the University of Virginia’s grounds, shouting, “You will not replace us,” and “Jew will not replace us.” They walked around the Rotunda, the university’s signature building, and to a statue of Thomas Jefferson, where a group of counterprotesters were gathered, and a brawl ensued.
As far as I know, Charlottesville did not issue any permits for those Friday night inflammatory shenanigans.
Included among the counterprotesters were Charlottesville residents and UVa students.
Fingers should be pointing and wagging in many directions.
But also, note that our 1st Amendment Right for free speech is not unlimited, and does not extend to inciting and fomenting violence and riots. The Supreme Court has cited three “reasons why threats of violence are outside the First Amendment”: “protecting individuals from the fear of violence, from the disruption that fear engenders, and from the possibility that the threatened violence will occur."
We should recognize that a few Americans are more readily incited to violence than the vast majority of Americans.
The Commonwealth of Virginia did not issue or grant the assembly permit for Saturday, 12 August, in Emancipation Park; that was the City of Charlottesville, back on June 13th.
Then, on August 7th, upon recognizing the upcoming hazards and potential for violence of the Unite the Right Rally (and counterprotesters) in the confined downtown area of Emancipation Park, the city modified the permit changing the 12 August assembly location to McIntire Park.
The "Unite the Right" organization, with the support of the ACLU, took the city to federal court arguing against the city's rally permit venue modifications.
On Friday, at 8pm, Federal US District Judge Conrad stayed the change of venue decision by the city, permitting the assembly to continue in Emancipation Park.
http://www.nbc29.com/story/36115819/judge-grants-injunction-jason-kessler-can-have-unite-the-right-rally-at-emancipation-park
Following Judge Conrad's decision late Friday, Mayor Mike Signer of Charlottesville released a statement which stated:
"While the City is disappointed by tonight's ruling we will abide by the judge's decision. The goal in moving the Unite the Right Rally from Emancipation Park to a larger, more accommodating space like McIntire Park had nothing to do with the content of the demonstrators' speech. The decision was made based on the projected number of demonstrators expected in our one acre park in downtown and the public safety needs of our community."
Shortly thereafter, late on Friday, several hundred torch-bearing men and women marched on the main quadrangle of the University of Virginia’s grounds, shouting, “You will not replace us,” and “Jew will not replace us.” They walked around the Rotunda, the university’s signature building, and to a statue of Thomas Jefferson, where a group of counterprotesters were gathered, and a brawl ensued.
As far as I know, Charlottesville did not issue any permits for those Friday night inflammatory shenanigans.
Included among the counterprotesters were Charlottesville residents and UVa students.
Fingers should be pointing and wagging in many directions.
But also, note that our 1st Amendment Right for free speech is not unlimited, and does not extend to inciting and fomenting violence and riots. The Supreme Court has cited three “reasons why threats of violence are outside the First Amendment”: “protecting individuals from the fear of violence, from the disruption that fear engenders, and from the possibility that the threatened violence will occur."
We should recognize that a few Americans are more readily incited to violence than the vast majority of Americans.
Judge Grants Injunction, Jason Kessler Can Have Unite the Right Rally at Emancipation Park
A judge has granted a temporary injunction for Jason Kessler allowing him to have his Unite the Right rally in Emancipation Park.
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Here's the thing. Many of us have heard about radical Leftist groups (Nation of Islam, Black Panther Party, The New Black Panther Party, elements of the Black Lives Matter movement, etc) and call them out on their activities regularly. How many of us know about The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, The National Policy Institute, American Vanguard, and other radical Right wing groups and how many still, knowing where and who these people are, say and do nothing? It's the silent affirmation that emboldens these groups and it's only when tragedies like Charlottesville happen does anyone talk about condemning these groups
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
SSgt Ray Stone - Look. These groups are, sadly, considered extremist groups. You don't have to like it but they are. The hypocritical thing is while these groups tend to get the lion's share of coverage from the conservative media, neo-nazi and white nationalist groups are barely a blip on their radar AND while the conservative media will almost gleefully demonize the former, they will make excuse for and underreport the latter.
BLUF, these "alt-right" groups have been here and have worked under the radar and behind the scenes because people that don't do anything about them or call them out on their bullshit. That was the point I was making.
PO1 Robert Payne you are right. Nothing says "It is not really silent affirmation but just lack of them doing anything significant," like shooting up a church, bombing a church or a mosque, making citizens afraid to go there i.e. Vidor, Texas or marching down a street with Confederate and Nazi flag (which is ironic seeing as how both of those groups lost the fights they were in).
BLUF, these "alt-right" groups have been here and have worked under the radar and behind the scenes because people that don't do anything about them or call them out on their bullshit. That was the point I was making.
PO1 Robert Payne you are right. Nothing says "It is not really silent affirmation but just lack of them doing anything significant," like shooting up a church, bombing a church or a mosque, making citizens afraid to go there i.e. Vidor, Texas or marching down a street with Confederate and Nazi flag (which is ironic seeing as how both of those groups lost the fights they were in).
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