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CPT Jack Durish
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If true, that's a good beginning. Now add the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR to the list and we're getting somewhere.
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AMEN Sir!
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MAJ James Woods
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But the KKK and other White Supremacist groups are not labeled as terrorist organizations. So what gives? I'm for Anti-FA being on the list but so do others.
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CPT Jack Durish
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MAJ James Woods - Show me the current acts of terror committed by these organizations. To be honest, they are panty waists compared to their predecessors. I grew up seeing reports of American Nazi Party parades and demonstrations all over the US. Few people attended. They were always out numbered by counter demonstrators. There was never any violence. Today's KKK similarly is a social club compared to the post Civil War thugs who lynched, pillaged, raped, and burned their way across the South. Today's KKK is headquartered in the North and is rarely seen. Granted they are more numerous than the American Nazi Party but, again, I have not heard reports of acts of terror committed by them in recent decades. White supremacists are not organized like the American Nazi Party or the KKK. They are a loose confederation of gangs, mostly arising from prison convicts. They are often mistaken for Nazis because the swastika is one of their more popular tattoos. Rather than terrorists, they are criminals and are regularly treated as such.
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MAJ James Woods
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CPT Jack Durish - You're calling the Alt-Right group, KKK, and American Nazi groups are social club gangs that never counter protested a rally by a leftist group showing up armed and threatening the safety of others and actually attacked people. Next you'll be saying anti-government militias who have seized government property, threatened locals and law enforcement, making political demands are peaceful protesters not domestic terrorists or criminal behavior either.
White supremacists are not organized? The American Nazi party and the KKK are examples of organized White supremacist groups then and now. So just stop.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
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SSG(P) (Join to see) I have to call bullshit on this. How can DHS know that Antifa is inciting violence in New York, Philadelphia, or Chicago? There is so much violence in those cities that it would be more noticeable if they incited peace.
The thing that I am amused by in all of these groups on both sides is that they want their right to free speech protected while trampling that right for those they disagree with.
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NJ Department of Homeland Security. As much as I hate new Jersey, they DO get tyrannical security right, if not overdo it.
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PO2 Robert Aitchison
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"antifa" by it's very nature is not organized, how would you prove someone belongs to something that only exists as a nebulous concept.

Seems easier to change terrorism laws so you can prosecute someone for terrorism based on their actions not dependent on group affiliation.
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MAJ James Woods
MAJ James Woods
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It gives more flexibility for law enforcement to focus only on those all dressed in black wearing masks and hoods causing violence and arresting them as terrorists instead of just standard criminal behavior. Yet we can't get them to declare the same response to other costume dressed, mask wearing, weapon wielding individuals showing up at rallies to instigate violence.
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PO2 Robert Aitchison
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MAJ James Woods - Heh, as it happens I'm wearing all black today (black jeans and black t-shirt), but I seem to have misplaced my mask and hood ;)
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