Understanding Christianese- Lesson 4

Capt Gregory Prickett - John the Babtist gave testament who Christ was. G-d's word gives testament to who Christ is. Christ gives testament and action to who he is. Even though, Christ is G-d living in a human body.
When we go to the store to buy goods, we trust those that made the food did so according to our laws. Also, we can trust in G-d's testimony.

Cpl Mark A. Morris - do you have anything besides the Bible? You know, like real evidence?

Capt Gregory Prickett - Prophcey in the Bible causes me to pause. The rebirth of Israel is an example.
mos 9:14-15
I will bring back my exiled people Israel; they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them. They will plant vineyards and drink their wine; they will make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted from the land I have given them,” says the Lord your God.

Cpl Mark A. Morris - Mark, most of what is counted as prophecy in the Bible is so vague as to be useless.

Would you agree that it would be a problem if there is prophecy in that Bible that failed, that did not come to pass, and now can never come to pass?

Capt Gregory Prickett - Sir, there is no honor in what you are doing here. I believe you are your own worst enemy. As you said in your first paragraph all the practices that get under your skin were performed in the past, and the “ones” that are “still on the books” are unenforceable… so what are you fighting for; because fighting is what you’re really doing. You are no different from the Communists and Socialists that try to destroy everything that people can be drawn to for support. I feel sad for you.

I’m not going to try to defend all the bad stuff performed under the name of Christians over the world’s history; for the most part it is “history”, and belongs in the past. It’s amusing that a Christian Nation has given you the platform to wage your war against Religions. It must really tear you up inside, that’s probably why you feel you must destroy it. If it weren’t for our Christian values I would hate to see where our Country would be today. Like it or not: our Country is the power it is today because of its moral values, not because we don’t believe in anything.

You are a lawyer: listen to yourself: your rants about people telling you your are going to hell, Christian’s delusional beliefs, talking snakes and donkeys, etc. Why does this stuff bother you? It appears you have the same disease that the Palestinians and Jews have toward one another. They teach their children they were stolen from thousands of years ago from the other side. This creates so much hatred that neither side can honestly speak with the other, except to try to get an upper hand by posturing in an attempt to destroy them.

I do thank you for finally being honest and explaining the end game plan. When you muck around enough to get the attention of working people like me, you know you have drawn some real negative exposure to your cause. For your reading pleasure:
http://blogs.christianpost.com/confident-christian/talking-snakes-donkeys-and-believing-the-bible-11993/

SFC (Join to see) - the last paragraph of your link poses the question: "The question is not if a snake or donkey can talk, but if a supernatural God exists. If the latter is true, the former is a walk in the park."

You haven't demonstrated that the latter is true, and without that, the former is delusional. You jumped in to defend your religious belief, but I noticed that you did not try to defend the flying horse Muhammad used, or Kolob, or Scientology, etc. The defense you used for your god can also be used for theirs, or for the beer volcano of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Your response to the talking animals concern is basically an answer of "because - magic!" That may be fine for you, but it's not fine for those who value reason and evidence.

I always get a kick out of the "Christian nation" myth, when the overwhelming view of ministers, preachers, and pastors was to oppose ratification of the Constitution because it did not make the United States a Christian nation, but a secular one. It wasn't until the 1920s that Christians really started to revise history on that matter.

You also don't understand who the target it--it's not Christians who are firm in their beliefs, it's the people who are watching from the sidelines, the observers. While it would be nice if you and your Christian buddies deconverted, it's unlikely to happen. But studies have shown that an aggressive approach in confronting religious beliefs that don't make sense helps those who are undecided chose skepticism and a secular belief over ancient superstition. You see, you approach it on an emotional level, and we don't, and that's what the observers see.

You see, you project your beliefs on us, and the observers see that what you are claiming is just not true. It's things like the specious claim that atheists believe in "nothing," when the observer can see that isn't true. We believe in all sorts of things, we just don't believe in mystical, magical beings without empirical evidence. You don't get that, and that's OK. Those who are watching do get it.

You see, studies show that the more economic growth in a country, the more the standard of living grows, and the more the religious population shrinks. And when that happens, it has been shown that "[c]ontrary to the claims of religious leaders, Godless countries are highly moral nations with an unusual level of social trust, economic equality, low crime and a high level of civic engagement." Nigel Barber, PhD. See also http://atheism.wikia.com/wiki/American_Atheism_is_rising_and_Christians_don%27t_like_it

Capt Gregory Prickett - I say again: There is no honor in what you are doing. To honestly convert people one speaks about what they believe in to draw people to them. In your form of converting people you attack, and worse yet make up items to say against what you are trying to destroy. “Talking snakes and monkeys” you know that isn’t the context of what is being discussed, but in your mind anything is fair game to destroy the other side. I know you will try to justify this by saying “it was done to us first”: that sir is a weak argument. The zeal with which you are willing to lie about the context of topics discussed shows you’re malice.

I don’t attack any other Religion that is peaceful in current times. Everyone can evolve… well OK maybe you can’t. Studies or anything else you say about Religion doesn’t mean anything coming from you. You proved you will lie about anything (talking snakes and monkeys) to get your way. The people who print this stuff are probably the same people who predicted HRC would win Pa in double digits days before the election; in other words it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on. I wish you well, but it’s my experience people with such hatred usually aren’t very happy in life.

SFC (Join to see) - I'll be happy to drop the comments about talking snakes and donkeys, although it's not a lie. Your Bible says there were both, and I say that is unbelievable without evidence. Anyone who would believe that the Bible is literally true and that snakes and donkeys actually spoke is, by definition, delusional. I just don't give those people a pass because it is their religious belief. But we can talk about something else.

Why don't we talk about the Biblical support of slavery and genocide, instead? How do you feel about the Bible condoning the ownership of people? Or, in the alternative, about killing off entire populations of people?

I also don't have any hatred, that's your issue, not mine.