Posted on Feb 19, 2018
Mattis: Deploy-or-get-out rule is about fairness
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Is this a good idea? Most of the services are undermanned and will have a difficult time meeting recruitment goals. We have a number of units that need personnel and are permanently stateside where people don’t deploy. These are execellent spots for people who are having issues that prevent them from deploying.
Is it a good idea and can it be applied correctly so as to not harm the services and manning that is already strained? If it is not what harms will come to the services?
Is it a good idea and can it be applied correctly so as to not harm the services and manning that is already strained? If it is not what harms will come to the services?
Mattis: Deploy-or-get-out rule is about fairness
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My experience... I had a coded tech that managed to get himself non-deployable for 2 different deployments. According to the admin folks because he wasn't transferred off, it still looked like I had all the people I needed. Consequently, for 2 deployments, I was unable to use a gun system, as he was the only tech onboard authorized to clean, maintain and operate it... So, I think it is a good idea... non-deployables make it much harder for those that do deploy.
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Stick around the service long enough and you will be forced to solve these issues. Mine came when I lost 50% of my females to pregnancy right before a deployment. I had planned for this and had a rigorous cross training program and stand by replacements that went to all training with us. There was zero impact to our mission as a result and we didn’t pull some unprepared servicemember through a knothole. 2 is 1 and 1 is none.
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I agree. It's about fairness. You signed up to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. I am very sure that are a small group of military people who are "professional" states side rs. Thinking up reasons to be non-deplorable. Disrupt units training cycles and have a 100% impact on moral. If you have a medical reason....fine. But if it comes up every deployment cycle then it's a trend and you don't need the requirements to serve. Time for you to go. No place for snowflakes.
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As with anything having to do with large groups of people in different professions, the answer is: it depends. For some communities it makes sense, others maybe not so much. Not to disparage certain communities, but it is probably easy to move a non-deployable yeoman to a shore PSD billet. But the flip-side of that coin is you are having less and less people pick up the deployment slack.
In the crypto community, we use riders a lot. Subs have no ship's company CTs onboard (maybe one) and we are normally half-manned in the R-branch rates and have no I-branchers onboard in port. So, when we deploy we pull from a rider shop at one of the NIOCs to fill those billets. If something were to pop-off and we needed to send a large task-group somewhere, I would hope we have enough deployable CTs to get the job done instead of it coming time and we realize we have people in those slots who can't perform the mission.
Like LT Brad McInnis says, if we have non-deployable people in deployable billets, big Navy only sees that that billet is manned and we lose a piece of our fighting force.
In the crypto community, we use riders a lot. Subs have no ship's company CTs onboard (maybe one) and we are normally half-manned in the R-branch rates and have no I-branchers onboard in port. So, when we deploy we pull from a rider shop at one of the NIOCs to fill those billets. If something were to pop-off and we needed to send a large task-group somewhere, I would hope we have enough deployable CTs to get the job done instead of it coming time and we realize we have people in those slots who can't perform the mission.
Like LT Brad McInnis says, if we have non-deployable people in deployable billets, big Navy only sees that that billet is manned and we lose a piece of our fighting force.
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