Posted on Mar 1, 2018
San Francisco cops fire 65 shots in 15 seconds at murder suspect in dramatic video
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So many issues.... 1) were these the infamous "fully semi-automatic" handguns that an Army General talked about on CNN, 2) did anyone else think the cops looked like bowling pins falling over after picking up a spare when they hit the back end of the truck (and they kept firing?!?!?) and 3) someone seriously needs some time on the range... but not only is it California, it is San Francisco....
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A number of years ago a whacko wanted to commit suicide by cop and came out of a motel room waving a gun. Well the 5 - 6 cops outside shot him a total of 57 times according to the report at the time. They didn't have any automatic rifles. They feared for their lives and eliminated the threat.
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Numerous studies have shown that during stress (ie, not shooting at paper, etc), on average 70% of rounds fired by police will miss their target. On such study, conducted by the RAND corporation at the request of the NYPD states:
“As has been reported nationally, police officers often miss their targets (Morrison, 2006, p. 332). NYPD reports hit-rate statistics both for officers involved in a gunfight and for officers who shoot at subjects who do not return fire. Between 1998 and 2006, the average hit rate was 18 percent for gunfights. Between 1998 and 2006, the average hit rate in situations in which fire was not returned was 30 percent. In 2006, the hit rate against subjects who did not return fire was 27 percent.”
It always bothers me when some politician wants to know why someone would need a magazine with more than 10 rounds (at one point, NY tried restricting magazines to 7 rounds) for self-defense. If the police have such a high miss rate, what will be the experience of the average homeowner if one or more intruders break into their home?
“As has been reported nationally, police officers often miss their targets (Morrison, 2006, p. 332). NYPD reports hit-rate statistics both for officers involved in a gunfight and for officers who shoot at subjects who do not return fire. Between 1998 and 2006, the average hit rate was 18 percent for gunfights. Between 1998 and 2006, the average hit rate in situations in which fire was not returned was 30 percent. In 2006, the hit rate against subjects who did not return fire was 27 percent.”
It always bothers me when some politician wants to know why someone would need a magazine with more than 10 rounds (at one point, NY tried restricting magazines to 7 rounds) for self-defense. If the police have such a high miss rate, what will be the experience of the average homeowner if one or more intruders break into their home?
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Sgt Wayne Wood
Yeah... way back in the dark ages i read a couple of studies... one said most combat shooter spray-n-pray, more interested in making the OTHER GUY (tm) keep HIS head down.
Seem to recall something about in combat situations in a platoon sized unit less than 10 guys actually shoot. The rest do the normal thing & try not to attract attention.
Seem to recall something about in combat situations in a platoon sized unit less than 10 guys actually shoot. The rest do the normal thing & try not to attract attention.
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SSG Edward Tilton
He was barricaded in an RV, not that it's an excuse. Tow him to the range so can get more firepower
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