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LTC Multifunctional Logistician
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This was a routine mission back in the 90s under President Clinton. Funny no one complained back then.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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Maj Marty Hogan - I had a number of airmen on active duty at various times on the border, usually with CBP at checkpoints/crossings. They were always Title 32 to avoid a Posse Comitatus issue. I will note that this was in the 90s, as I retired before 9/11.
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LTC Multifunctional Logistician
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GySgt Olson- you are correct on the TF-6 part. I was in 2/16 Inf Regt and the Task/Purpose was to conduct a screen in depth, report contact, and provide support to Federal law enforcement. It was a support mission with no direct contact with any of the individuals. To me it was a show of force. Everyone could here our Bradleys moving around at night and I think it is a deterrent force used to funnel individuals into a known location for law enforcement actions.
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Maj Marty Hogan
Maj Marty Hogan
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Capt Gregory Prickett - I can't recall our status- they were over 30 days so I am guessing Title 10. We did the missions from 2001- around 2008 when we couldn't support it any longer. It still exists, but not sure in what fashion today. The troops that did it liked it a lot. They built fences, patrolled, and a few other tasks I can't recall.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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Maj Marty Hogan - normally the Guard is ordered to active duty under Title 32, unless they are going overseas. All of my guys that were at Customs checkpoints in the 90s were Title 32, and they were normally on 12 month orders.
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CW5 Shop Superintendent Csms
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Posse Comitatus should not apply since the military will not be policing US citizens nor staying in privately owned homes. It will be defending the border from illegal entry by foreign peoples.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
MAJ Bryan Zeski
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If they're INSIDE the border already, how do you know their status?
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Surveillance. Aerial assets belonging to the military can be used in conjunction with the border patrol. You are legally allowed to follow them for 25 miles, or 30 minutes and has to be continuous. Thereafter military can make spot reports to the border patrol.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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Whyether or not anyone thinks it"should' apply, it does apply for law enforcement actions inside the US.
Also, Trump[ can order the NG anywhere unless he federalizes it and if Governors deploy the the pay the deployed troops at DRILL rate. just like the recently did In PR when states sent non-federalized troops, and that get very expensive very fast,
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CW5 Shop Superintendent Csms
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The word "should" means that the written intent is unclear on the president's use of the military on the border. Under current rules/law the active duty cannot perform policing actions on our soil however, the national guard can. If the president's use of the word "military" refers to the national guard then he most certainly can send us to the border to assist with law enforcement...Granted, "staying in private homes" is not directly posse comitatus related but I figured it would come up anyway hence the word nor v/s or.

BTW, nice google job on 18USC. While you are looking, check out case law and legal precedence pertaining to the subject. It is quite enlightening.
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CMSgt Security Forces
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It depends. If you're a liberal it means the fascist tyrant known as Drumpf is once again targeting minority populations in an effort to make America White again. If you're a conservative, it means once again Trump is doing his job.
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1stSgt Mack Housman
1stSgt Mack Housman
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Amen P03 McCord!
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I agree, Obama's law background served him well.
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