Posted on Apr 17, 2018
I Heard About the Latest Starbucks 'Racism' Video While I Was Sitting In a Starbucks (Without...
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A man sits in a Starbucks and doesn't order anything. Guess what happened to him. Nothing!
I Heard About the Latest Starbucks 'Racism' Video While I Was Sitting In a Starbucks (Without...
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This whole Starbucks incident bugs me for several reasons.
1. In the age of Millennials, it's not unusual to see folks hanging in coffee shops for hours; you don't always see a store cup or bag on the table by them.
2. We never found out how long the two guys were sitting there before manager engaged them.
3. The two guys should've bought a cheap drink or just wait outside; especially when the cops asked them to leave.
4. The cops could've managed this better. Ok you arrested them for disturbance and refusing to follow lawful order from police. Take them outside in cuffs. Give them a stern warning then uncuff and release.
5. BLM and others are overreacting and now we're possibly going to see folks stage incidents to see if this was an isolated incident or more.
6. Anti-BLM folks are already on the social media attack calling this a case of Black Privilege. Didn't know that was a thing.
In my opinion, this incident was elevated when they were arrested and had charges initially filed against them. Point #4 could've made this a "nothing burger".
1. In the age of Millennials, it's not unusual to see folks hanging in coffee shops for hours; you don't always see a store cup or bag on the table by them.
2. We never found out how long the two guys were sitting there before manager engaged them.
3. The two guys should've bought a cheap drink or just wait outside; especially when the cops asked them to leave.
4. The cops could've managed this better. Ok you arrested them for disturbance and refusing to follow lawful order from police. Take them outside in cuffs. Give them a stern warning then uncuff and release.
5. BLM and others are overreacting and now we're possibly going to see folks stage incidents to see if this was an isolated incident or more.
6. Anti-BLM folks are already on the social media attack calling this a case of Black Privilege. Didn't know that was a thing.
In my opinion, this incident was elevated when they were arrested and had charges initially filed against them. Point #4 could've made this a "nothing burger".
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MAJ James Woods
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Difference is the two men were refusing orders by the police to leave. As a result, they gave the police no other option but to detain them. That's where the two men start losing any ethical argument they had.
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MAJ James Woods
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - I don't know the case of the homeless man and McDonald's nor have seen video footage of the incident. My opinion is based on review of the Starbucks video and it's the discretion of the police to decide what level of disobedience to take from an individual.
If the homeless man or guy filming had continued to ignore the cop's commands, the cop would have been in his authority to detain either one.
There's a difference between a) detain then release moments later and b) arrest, transport, then process them with charges.
If the homeless man or guy filming had continued to ignore the cop's commands, the cop would have been in his authority to detain either one.
There's a difference between a) detain then release moments later and b) arrest, transport, then process them with charges.
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MAJ James Woods
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Thanks for the video. The customer who started shouting at McD's staff definitely was creating a disturbance and being disorderly and challenging the authority of the officer. At that point, she could've have detained him too. That guy didn't help by being volatile and combative; didn't handle the situation well at all. The video was rightfully viral that portrayed the ignorance of McD management and any customers that complained about the homeless guy. Also showed arrogant behavior of the customer filming.
How would you handle it if you were the guy filming? Hopefully in a manner that is both respectful to other customers, the cop, and more importantly the homeless guy.
How would you handle it if you were the guy filming? Hopefully in a manner that is both respectful to other customers, the cop, and more importantly the homeless guy.
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MAJ James Woods
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - If I was the cop I'd arrest the disorderly guy creating the disturbance as well. If I was the customer, I'd say "ok, no problem. You want him to leave, we'll take our food and leave." Then took the guy outside, sat next to him outside and finished eating.
As with Starbucks, I hold the customer as much responsible as the manager and the police for any escalation that occurs.
As with Starbucks, I hold the customer as much responsible as the manager and the police for any escalation that occurs.
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