Turkey completes first phase of 900km wall along Syrian border

Berlin Wall did not stop East German defectors from sneaking out through cars. Great Wall of China failed due to dynasty corruption and became a tourist attraction.

SGT (Join to see) get triggered much? I’d answer your question with why do folks think illegal immigrants will obey US laws once they enter the country illegally?

LTC (Join to see) - do I get triggered much? No. But it’s generally true that when a person is presented with common sense (see video) that they can’t really explain, they simply dish out ‘clever’ (not clever) comments.
Further, it’s generally true that when a person is asked a question they don’t have a good answer for, they generally deflect in a bunch of different ways. A tried and true method is to answer a question with a question.

But, I’ll still answer your question. Some will, some won’t. I don’t think the majority of Natural born US citizens obey US laws. People are inherently violent. Big newsflash. But for any statistic that shows mass spikes in crime rates by illegals, there are just as many statistics that show the opposite.

So back to the question you didn’t/can’t answer. I don’t want illegal immigration any more than you do. But a wall isn’t gonna do it. Especially dumping billions into a wall that will never get finished. But say magically, a big wall was dropped into place tomorrow. We don’t have enough people on the border to monitor it now. We won’t have enough people tomorrow. And people can still get up and over it. I’d bet just about anything that there are cartel-funded engineers designing deeper, longer tunnels to defeat any wall that magically pops up.

But the clever types (you) have apparently been sold on the idea that a border wall is THE solution to border security. And f*ck anyone who thinks otherwise. Because if they don’t like the wall, they obviously must like illegal immigration. That’s fake news. And it’s unfortunate.

Divide and conquer, right? If there’s one thing this administration is good at, it’s sowing division amongst the people. Anyway, if you could answer the original question, that’d be great.
Thanks.

'I don’t think the majority of Natural born US citizens obey US laws.'
When the majority of natural-born US citizens watch liberal judges keep releasing violent criminals again and again and again on their own recognizance, when they see drugged/drunk drivers with their 15th DUI get released with time served after wiping out an innocent family of four on their way to the grocery store - please tell us why the majority of us should obey some stupid law limiting the number of rounds a rifle magazine should hold. The ultimate goal of the government is to make criminals out of all of us anyway.

CDR Dan Cunningham - right on. Which is why the government doesn’t prosecute companies that employ illegal immigrants. Everyone’s gotta make that money while we’re being turned into criminals.

But if you can explain how an obstacle course-style wall would be more effective in curbing illegal immigration than prosecuting the criminals who provide the financial demand, please do so.

Another good question that went ignored/unanswered was Why do folks seem to vehemently argue the stance along the lines of ‘if you don’t want a wall, you obviously don’t care about security or illegal immigrants?’.

Unfortunately, people have been sold the idea that a wall is the end all/be all of illegal immigration and security.