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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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They need to be treated like the rats they are, our people who have been prisoners in the Arab/Muslim area were treated like vermin, so why should we treat them like kings.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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Why don't you try to refute the assertions of the article. For example, were there any instances of Qur'ans being put in a toilet, or the back of the Qur'an being broken during a search for contraband.

Second, a US Army officer, a chaplain, corroborated some of the charges. Are you calling him a liar? Who would be more apt to be in a position to know this? A MSC officer responsible for pushing paper to ensure medical support, or a chaplain, who deals directly with the prisoners on a daily basis? Especially when official reports supports the account of the chaplain?
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
MAJ Montgomery Granger
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First, that's been refuted, like when it happened. Impossible for the Qurans we gave them to be shoved down even a 2" pipe! Ridiculous from "Go!" It gets exhausting after a while, the nonsense and lies. No one cares in the MSM about the REAL Gitmo. Even Bob Franken, CNN reporter at Gitmo when I was there used to ply us for information, and when we said it was classified what he was asking he would accuse us of not letting him do his job, so, he said he would "Make it up." That was his threat to us, that he would just make it up, and so he did, over and over again with his crazy "Riot at Camp X-Ray" BS. You can't "refute" a he-said, he-said. It's a whom do you believe more, the dedicated, clean cut, US Army soldier, or the murderous, hateful taqiyya-practicing unlawful combatant Islamist who wants to kill you and the sympathetic MSM? Are you kidding me?

The Chaplain was caught smuggling classified documents out of Gitmo. Of course they don't mention that in this US military-basing article. That will tell you about the man's discipline and character.

I pushed paper like you push mules for a living. I was on the ground every day at the detention hospital, Navy Fleet Hospital 20. I would attend the command meeting every day (that's seven days a week for you 9-5ers), observe detainees, guards and Navy medical personnel in action, go back to HQ to write a SIT REP by hand, photo copy it and then send it up the flag pole. Detailed information on every detainee in the Fleet Hospital, translated for an Army staff who were not versed in medical terminology. Typically they were most interested to know if anybody was going to die on us or not. I would also visit Camp X-Ray, do inspections with other medical staff, environmental and preventive medical staff and vendors, mainly Navy folks for the ENVIRO & PREV MED. Inside the wire the Army had the medical mission, mostly med staff organic to the MP battalion with C&C over the camp. I would attend JTF Command medical meetings, re: good guy care. I was the effective S-1 for all good guys and bad guys. I saw and managed the rosters, with so many "John Smith" secret squirrels it would make your head spin. Every DoD person on the Island for the mission was supposed to deploy with medical records or go home. You can imagine what happened with that directive. In the afternoons I would receive the Camp X-Ray medical intel report from a medical NCO who went to every detainee every day after sick call and then listened to their belly aches, pains and complaints. Every day. Then I hand wrote another SIT REP based on the reports, copied and then shared that with Army and Navy medical command. I was also responsible for administrative oversight of ad hoc MTF (Medical Treatment Facilities) set up for level 1 good guy care. That was Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard personnel. Let's just say I earned a degree in herding cats. When detainees were flown in, at noon or o-dark-thirty, I accompanied my boss, the Camp Commandant to the Leeward airport. I would observe incoming detainee transfers and supervise on-the-ground medical treatment by an Army 1LT PA, and SSG medic. These guys did a medical once over on the tarmac, prepped for transportation anyone who needed special attention, and then performed the medical exams at Camp X-Ray during in-processing, Most days were 14+ hours, some longer. Nights were interrupted occasionally for incidents in the camp. I would accompany the commander, with whom I bunked, to these video taped disturbances, after which occasionally a detainee would require medical attention. Free time? Not much, but there was an outdoor movie theater with a double feature every night, the Tiki Bar and O Club, The Jerk House and the NEX. Sometimes I want to tell people to just read the damn book and then make up their own minds.

NONE of this stuff is new. The only thing that new are the Millennial cry-baby snowflake bleeding heart liberal reporters and wanna be editors who publish this garbage. To hell with the 99.9% of all military personnel who served and are serving at Gitmo who gave their very best at Gitmo despite harsh and difficult circumstances. Who gives them their due? Who gives the atta boy to Private Snuffy who did 12 hour shifts with no days off for months? My hero was the female Navy corpsman physical therapist who day in and day out walked with and worked with UNSHACKLED detainees EVERY DAY. The MP walked behind her so that if the detainee tried to grab her the MP would have a clear shot at him. She's my hero. No one else ever had to work with them unshackled while I was there. They were shackled 24/7/365 otherwise.

We treated ALL detainees with dignity and respect. The few instances of abuse, some of which I witnessed or was directly involved in reconciling were few and far between and then dealt with immediately and severely. Nothing untoward was tolerated. Some guys wanna talk about guilt? That's on them for not understanding their mission or having the personal courage to stand up for what they thought was wrong at the time. I know that the guard force were briefed and then de-briefed before and after EVERY SHIFT. They were told that if they felt they could not control their anger or animosity towards the detainees they needed to ask for reassignment, because if it manifested itself on duty with a detainee they would be severely dealt with via the UCMJ, and they were. After the shifts they had to report any and every incident they felt might be unlawful or bad for the mission, and they did. Those who didn't broke their oath of enlistment in my eyes. They had a problem, they needed to report it. If not, dereliction of duty and insubordination. It was a tight ship. It was a disciplined ship. Anyone who has ever deployed with Military Police units knows they are among the most disciplined in the Army, and with God and everybody focused on this mission from "Go," you know we were on our P's and Q's. The ICRC physicians I worked with at Gitmo and then later in Iraq told me, "No one does [detention operations] better than the US." To my last day I will take that with me knowing we did our best, and our best was damn good, Sir.

I just don't have the time or energy to explain all this to everyone each time they ask to "prove" the lies didn't happen. You can't prove a negative. All I can do is talk about what I saw and heard. That's all I can give.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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MAJ Montgomery Granger - the problem with your talking about things is that you do not relay the information truthfully, but with your spin, like when you erroneously stated that the Supreme Court had stated that detainees could be held indefinitely.

On CPT Yee, yes he was stopped and accused of what you said, but after a thorough investigation by the Army, the charges were dropped. Are you familiar with the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Or does this just apply to soldiers who are not Muslim?

On pushing paper? Although you denied it, you then laid out a list of all the paper you pushed. You were not a doctor or a nurse. You were MSC--and an MFA 70 officer. You didn't provide medical care, you weren't allied sciences, or preventive med, or a clinical MSC officer, you were admin.
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