Posted on Oct 17, 2019
Run times are a key predictor for musculoskeletal injuries, Army researchers say
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So more is not better. A precision approach is required. Can't see how units would possibly screw this up, especially with the one size fits all approach to PT.
I have some push back on this alleged causal releatiinship. Do you have a higher risk for a MSK because you can't run fast, or do you have a bad run time because you are working around MSKs and as a consequence you have a run time timed with a calendar.
I have some push back on this alleged causal releatiinship. Do you have a higher risk for a MSK because you can't run fast, or do you have a bad run time because you are working around MSKs and as a consequence you have a run time timed with a calendar.
Run times are a key predictor for musculoskeletal injuries, Army researchers say
Posted from armytimes.com
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The issue, like you said LTC, is the "one size fits all" approach. Since we don't start units from the beginning, there are constantly Soldiers PCSing in and out, the Team is never on the same level of fitness. A new Private straight out of AIT/IET has been doing nothing but PRT and now is getting thrown to the wolves when his light Scout platoon wants to run 6 miles for PT, but that new PVT's body is in no way ready for that, so he gets hurt. The rest of the platoon had built up. I saw this happen countless times throughout my career. We don't build units properly.
We stick people in mechanized world for 7 years, mech places less priority on cardio and fitness, then move them to the 101 or 82 and expect them to keep up. It not only injures them, but screws their career since the mech and light worlds are so different.
PRT is another reason injuries happen. It...just...plain...sucks. It also is affected by the constant in and out of personnel, but it just doesn't provide effective exercise for Soldiers.
The article mentioned the AWCs. Yes, they are a fantastic initiative, but how many Infantry and Armor units are going to allow their Soldiers to take time off work and attend AWC appointments? At the BN Command level I'm sure they say "go get the help you need" etc, but at the squad level, not so much. Soldiers are afraid to go to sick call (another reason injuries are so bad), let alone schedule something else.
We stick people in mechanized world for 7 years, mech places less priority on cardio and fitness, then move them to the 101 or 82 and expect them to keep up. It not only injures them, but screws their career since the mech and light worlds are so different.
PRT is another reason injuries happen. It...just...plain...sucks. It also is affected by the constant in and out of personnel, but it just doesn't provide effective exercise for Soldiers.
The article mentioned the AWCs. Yes, they are a fantastic initiative, but how many Infantry and Armor units are going to allow their Soldiers to take time off work and attend AWC appointments? At the BN Command level I'm sure they say "go get the help you need" etc, but at the squad level, not so much. Soldiers are afraid to go to sick call (another reason injuries are so bad), let alone schedule something else.
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LTC Jason Mackay
There are few options in a PT formation, if you let people do their own thing, they won’t do shit
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LTC Jason Mackay - Absolutely, you can't just say "do PT" for the conventional force, there has to be some oversight. But PRT is not the answer - at least the answer to improving the force...it did help someone get another star.
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LTC Jason Mackay
CW2 (Join to see) - yep. I used to work out for an hour before PT, then endure whatever jackassery the formation was going to do.
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The obvious solution is to go back to running 5 miles a day so bodies are trained for it.
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More is not always better especially if its hi impact. While the article touches on the subject of "nutritional guidance" diet is big factor in your health. Foods high in antioxidants can help reduce the rate of cartilage breakdown in addition to other foods that are naturally anti-inflammatory. Just seems logical if someone is experiencing joint pain it would impact the ability to exercise. I swear by pineapple -
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I was recently at a TRADOC base for DCC. I usually eat a high protein low carb diet. It’s what works with my body to keep fat off me and keeps me healthy. I also prefer low impact cardio like rowing or elliptical. I was amazed that the dfac had mainly carbs (this was AIT side too not BCT) and you got a tiny amount of protein. I mainly would eat the small piece of baked chicken and then eat a pouch of tuna so I could get enough protein and try to stick to a diet while there.
We also took the ACFT and then the next day went for a 3+ mile battalion run.
I know plenty of people who had injuries but they dare not go to sick call because they didn’t want kicked out of the school.
We also took the ACFT and then the next day went for a 3+ mile battalion run.
I know plenty of people who had injuries but they dare not go to sick call because they didn’t want kicked out of the school.
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SPC David S.
Agree sir on the rowing - it is a great bang for your buck - works a number of muscle groups in one motion. I participated in rugby for many many year - up into my mid 40's - and rowing is a rugger's go to exercise - and sprints - not long distance runs. Sprints work the core and will improve sit-ups and the 2 or 3 mile run times. This article relates to the issue of injury prevention while training.
https://ruckscience.com/learn/rowing-best-cardio-training-rugby/
https://ruckscience.com/learn/rowing-best-cardio-training-rugby/
Rowing is the best cardio training for rugby
IOO rowing is the best cardio training for rugby players. Every rugger can follow these rowing programs and develop their cardio base this off-season. It's a great way to build your cardio capacity without putting pressure on your joints.
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