Posted on Nov 22, 2019
China Condemns U.S. Bill Supporting Hong Kong Protests Amid PolyU Siege | Subverse News
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As protesters in Hong Kong seek international support in their ongoing conflict with the government and police, the US made an important step in showing solidarity with their struggle. Yesterday, the Senate passed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act and the Protect Act unanimously, with a few changes made to the original bill that passed the House. As a result, Beijing strongly condemned what they see as meddling in China’s affairs. All this comes in the wake of another university besieged by Hong Kong police, where a fierce standoff left hundreds arrested.
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All of the support in the world won't matter a glass of piss of the ChiComs come rolling down the causeway in force.
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Personal opinion: While China does deserve condemnation, economics are also involved as well as politics. While US is rightfully supporting the protesters, there is also competing pressure to end current tariffs for new trade deal
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/22/781972199/president-trump-waffles-on-hong-kong-democracy-bill
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/22/781972199/president-trump-waffles-on-hong-kong-democracy-bill
President Trump Waffles On Hong Kong Democracy Bill Amid China Trade Talks
President Trump says he stands with democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong. But he stopped short of pledging support for a pro-Hong Kong bill, saying it could complicate trade talks with China.
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LTC Eugene Chu
Cpl (Join to see) - Read article below. Resolution condemning mainland China's actions in Hong Kong was BIPARTISAN. US Senate, which is still Republican majority, unanimously passed the bill.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/us-senate-passes-hong-kong-rights-bill-sending-legislation-to-house.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/us-senate-passes-hong-kong-rights-bill-sending-legislation-to-house.html
US Senate unanimously passes Hong Kong rights bill, sending legislation to House
The "Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act" now goes to the House, which earlier approved its own version of the measure.
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i agree it's bipartisan, but i think you may be missing the point. Democrats have always been pro china. I'm saying the only reason they are on board with the republicans is that it will cause an economic downturn if a real trade war begins. An economic downturn is good for their chances to regain the whitehouse.
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LTC Eugene Chu
Cpl (Join to see) - Both modern day parties have issues of concern and business interests when dealing with mainland China. History refresher below...
Harry Truman, a liberal Democrat was POTUS during 1950s Korean War where PRC was allies with North Korea. LBJ, a liberal Democrat, was POTUS during 1960s Vietnam War where PRC was allies with North Vietnam. Richard Nixon, a conservative Republican, was the POTUS who reinstated relations with mainland China (Cold War exploitation of Sino-Soviet split).
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/nixon-chinatrip/
Harry Truman, a liberal Democrat was POTUS during 1950s Korean War where PRC was allies with North Korea. LBJ, a liberal Democrat, was POTUS during 1960s Vietnam War where PRC was allies with North Vietnam. Richard Nixon, a conservative Republican, was the POTUS who reinstated relations with mainland China (Cold War exploitation of Sino-Soviet split).
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/nixon-chinatrip/
Nixon's China Visit, 1972 | American Experience | PBS
A day-by-day itinerary of Nixon's trip to China.
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Let me rephrase, MODERN DEMOCRATS are happy with a communist china. but JFK (D) stood against truman's foreign policy. What's your point? We as a nation used to have a policy that prevented alliances and trade with countries that violated human rights and who were communist.
Nixon was wrong and anyone who thinks china is our friend is sadly mistaken. The damage is done and Trump knows that trade can't just stop, it would cause irreparable harm. However, he can help the trade situation with tough negotiations leading to fair trade.
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The news from China added to the dark foreboding: Mao Tse-tung declared Communist sovereignty over the entire Chinese mainland, trapping American's World War II ally Chiang Kai-shek into what appeared permanent exile on the island of Formosa.
JFK's reaction to the Asian situation was swift and angry even within Truman's own party. "That responsibility for the failure of our foreign policy in the Far East rests squarely with the White House and the Department of State." Congressman John F. Kennedy declared on the House floor in January 1949. "So concerned were our diplomats; with the imperfection of the democratic system of China after 20 years of war and the tales of corruption in high places that they lost sight of our tremendous stake in non-Communist China." The Truman policy "of vacillation, uncertainty, and confusion had reaped the whirlwind." The failure of the president and the State Department had left it to Congress to stop "the onrushing tide of communism from engulfing all of Asia," Kennedy said.
Nixon was wrong and anyone who thinks china is our friend is sadly mistaken. The damage is done and Trump knows that trade can't just stop, it would cause irreparable harm. However, he can help the trade situation with tough negotiations leading to fair trade.
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The news from China added to the dark foreboding: Mao Tse-tung declared Communist sovereignty over the entire Chinese mainland, trapping American's World War II ally Chiang Kai-shek into what appeared permanent exile on the island of Formosa.
JFK's reaction to the Asian situation was swift and angry even within Truman's own party. "That responsibility for the failure of our foreign policy in the Far East rests squarely with the White House and the Department of State." Congressman John F. Kennedy declared on the House floor in January 1949. "So concerned were our diplomats; with the imperfection of the democratic system of China after 20 years of war and the tales of corruption in high places that they lost sight of our tremendous stake in non-Communist China." The Truman policy "of vacillation, uncertainty, and confusion had reaped the whirlwind." The failure of the president and the State Department had left it to Congress to stop "the onrushing tide of communism from engulfing all of Asia," Kennedy said.
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