Trump: I Stood Up Against the ‘Deep State’ to Pardon Accused War Criminals

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SrA John Monette - Justice was done with firing of the Navy Secretary. Interestingly nobody in the Media or on the Left has ever asked what was done in past cases similar to this. Instead it is nail the war fighters azz to the wall. Thankfully we have a POTUS that is more objective.

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - Your looking at this too politically. Ignore completely what Trump did. Look at what the Navy Seal did and what the UCMJ court decided before Trump got involved. He was acquitted of all charges before Trump was involved via UCMJ with the exception of posing with a corpse (the only charge he was found guilty of). How that last count translates into WAR CRIME is anyones guess. Look at what happened to others before him that were punished for posing with a Corpse in GWOT.
The most they got was a letter of reprimand and forced retirement. Also, might add, Trump only got involved after a FOX GWOT War Infantry Veteran pleaded on air how unfair it was for the Navy to bug his lawyers phone as well as attempt to take his Trident (Pete Hegseth), he was joined by several Special Forces Veterans as well, demanding an investigation into the Navy's behavior. That is what moved Trump to intervene, he didn't just do it himself on his own as you imply above......he was openly petitioned.

SrA John Monette - This was not a UCMJ Court Verdict. UCMJ Court verdict acquitted the Seal of all charges before POTUS got involved except one. The one remaining charge the UCMJ punished him via forced retirement (last I checked he is still retired) and reduction in rank........thats it full stop. Trump restored his rank for retirement, thats the only part he got involved with initially until a Navy Admiral started this, lets go after his Trident Pin because he got his rank back. That was a Navy Flag Officers decision OUTSIDE OF UCMJ COURT. In past cases accused would be forced to retire at current rank with a letter of reprimand inserted into their personal file for desecrating a corpse. The part of revoking his rank and going after the Trident pin was clearly command influenced by the Navy. At any rate UCMJ had it's pass and Trump did not interfere in UCMJ except in restoration of rank and clearing of the last remainig charge. To me that is fair given what has happened in the past when someone desecrates a corpse they are forced out and given a letter of reprimand. So the argument was over taking his rank (and retirement money) along with his Trident and calling him a War Criminal for merely desecrating a corpse. Tell me what case in the past has that happened before? Completely unprecedented. Which caused other GWOT SF and Regular Army Veterans to start bitching on FOX about it which the President saw and started to ask questions..........then and only then did the POTUS intervene. Thank Pete Hegseth FOX and Friends (Former GWOT Combat 101st Airborne Infantry Platoon Leader) for starting the whole POTUS intervention with SF Veteran guests on his show..............thats how it got started. It wasn't POTUS rolling out of bed one day saying he was going to intervene in a military case all on his own.

This whole episode was started by GWOT Combat Veterans who petitioned the President on the Air of FOX NEWS. Are you saying they are full of it as well? One of them, Pete Hegseth (FOX and FRIENDS) Served with the 101st Airborne Rakkassans as a Infantry Platoon Leader in Iraq. Several other guests on the show were former SF Combat Veterans.........that also stated he was being treated unfairly by the Navy. Are they full of crap too? Should the POTUS have instead ignored the Veteran protests and said: "Oh well thats politics for ya"???

SPC Erich Guenther - Deep state is a conspiracy theory based on imagination and paranoia, not fact.

MSG Stan Hutchison - Easy to say if you have never worked at high levels of the U.S. Government. You have a LTC on this very same page saying it exists. Is he lying? I have seen aspects of it. Ever wonder why contract officers to the Pentagon pick the same contracting company year after year instead of going with the low bidder. It's because as the PM of the contract they don't want to go through radical change of changing people out. I can see how that would be interpreted as deep state. Can also see how mixing political appointees and civil service would cause problems in State Department. You do know they can flip between the two without much problem as a State Dept Employee. You can be appointed, POTUS changes and you can convert to Civil Service. Is that person suddenly objective now that they are Civil Service or do they still maintain their political loyalties and biases? Perhaps you should read the State Departments hand out on Foriegn Service Officer and Civil Service and see how interchangeable they are.

SPC Erich Guenther - I will rely on my own contacts. And the idea of some vast conspiracy is nonsense.

Regardless 1SG John Faircloth, there is a deepstate, even if only tacitly whether you think we are able or not. You’ve seen how it manifest be career folks who attain prominence or position and then chafe when new policy differs from what they think is right. I’ve seen it at all levels.

What about the ones that don’t follow the lawnMSG Stan Hutchison? At the lowest levels it is ones who decided they don’t like the direction of new leadership and just drag their feet until that leadership leaves; even seen some tell the leadership they will just wait them out. At the highest levels, it is ambassadors and advisors that serve at the pleasure of the POTUS, and then balk at the policy that”by law” POTUS gets to set! The text between Strok and Paige should be enough of a display for ya, but the hearings even more so.

None of the recent presidents was victim to the deep state SrA John Monette, they were part of the machine...Trump is not!

I will continue in this discussion as soon as I find my tinfoil hat.