Posted on Mar 23, 2021
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How many of you will refuse and do not intend on complying with the democrats gun seizure and unconstitutional edicts?
I guess now we get to the moment of truth. How many of you are going to stand and say NO and how many of you will just turn the other cheek, ignore your oath and abide by the unconstitutional edicts that the democrats and left have now announced as being a top priority?
And isn't it amazing how suddenly after how long of no shootings of this sort for so long, all of a sudden in the middle of the border crisis and collapse, in the middle of bidens obvious mental incapacity to run the country, we now suddenly have multiple events popping up around the nation? I would even bet, we will see more in the coming weeks.. Anyone want to take that bet?
NOTE: to you leftist trolls that WILL respond, WATCH the video of biden who JUST stated this not a few hours ago... You have NO argument that the left is not going to move to abolish the 2nd Amendment Rights of all American citizens if they can.
I guess now we get to the moment of truth. How many of you are going to stand and say NO and how many of you will just turn the other cheek, ignore your oath and abide by the unconstitutional edicts that the democrats and left have now announced as being a top priority?
And isn't it amazing how suddenly after how long of no shootings of this sort for so long, all of a sudden in the middle of the border crisis and collapse, in the middle of bidens obvious mental incapacity to run the country, we now suddenly have multiple events popping up around the nation? I would even bet, we will see more in the coming weeks.. Anyone want to take that bet?
NOTE: to you leftist trolls that WILL respond, WATCH the video of biden who JUST stated this not a few hours ago... You have NO argument that the left is not going to move to abolish the 2nd Amendment Rights of all American citizens if they can.
Biden calls on Senate to pass gun control measures 'immediately' after Boulder shooting
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Heck, even Feinstein has her worthless bill in the Senate. Her assault weapons ban would ban my Mossberg MVP Flex because it had a pistol grip, collapsible stock, and a detached magazine. Also, probably, because it is black. It is a bolt action rifle, the pistol grip helps because of limited supination of my right arm after my motorcycle wreck. It is time for these politicians to get over their hatred of all firearms.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
I'm not for it either. If someone wants to hunt with an AR, or rec shoot, that's their business. I don't have to worry about confiscation, but it's more gasoline on the fire IMO. I certainly wouldn't turn a neighbor in if they did legalize confiscation either. Too many are wrapped up in other people's business already. It's their life, and their choices to make. If they don't shoot at me they are not an enemy. The real issue is crazy people, and nothing will change that. The term "crazy like a fox" applies to screening. Secondary is those that have chosen a lifestyle of lawlessness. The cartels weigh their money in semis and could afford mass production of most man-pack weapons. Both categories will always find a way to get the arms they want. Besides pistols and 2 shotguns, I own 2 bolt action rifles. They all fit my needs, which differ from the needs of others. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is written in stone.
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Here is another news piece about the same speech. It does NOT mean gun confiscation order from the executive branch. It is about asking Congress to pass two bills as the legislative branch over the following topics
1. Ban of commercial sales for AR-15 style rifles and high capacity magazines
2. Expanding the current background check system to include previously exempt gun sales from private sellers or unlicensed dealers
3. Increasing background check time from 3 to 10 days (based on Charleston shooter being allowed to legally purchase gun despite background check not being completed on time)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/unfathomable-pain-democrats-demand-action-gun-control-after-back-back-n1261797
1. Ban of commercial sales for AR-15 style rifles and high capacity magazines
2. Expanding the current background check system to include previously exempt gun sales from private sellers or unlicensed dealers
3. Increasing background check time from 3 to 10 days (based on Charleston shooter being allowed to legally purchase gun despite background check not being completed on time)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/unfathomable-pain-democrats-demand-action-gun-control-after-back-back-n1261797
President Biden calls on Congress to tighten gun laws in wake of Colorado shooting that killed 10...
"As president I’m going to use all the resources at my disposal to keep people safe," the president said on Tuesday.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
PO1 Todd B. - Fresh out of opinions then? Dig deeper with your little hobby of being misinformed and disloyal to the Rule of Law. There are plenty of sites that will give you a fresh opinion. Throw a few insults in to show resolve. A true Patriot and keyboard Commando. Misguided and out of your depth.
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PO1 Todd B.
CWO3 (Join to see) - One of the biggest dangers to this republic are people that think just the way you stated... Blind loyalty without question, kills. (and you can quote me on that being it is actually MY quote) You used the term "disloyal to the rule of law"...
Guess what? Just because something is law, does NOT MAKE IT RIGHT or absolute. I don't BLINDLY accept, assume, or follow someone because they say I should. And MAN MADE law, from a fast increasingly corrupt government, is the WORST thing someone that purports to be a patriot and good person should be blindly calling as loyalty because many of those "laws" you blindly want to follow are corrupt as hell. And to top it off, unconstitutional as hell too..
People like you that blindly follow some politician and accept whatever "law" they say is in power, people like you that don't question or call out the corrupt and the laws they pass in that power, and people like you that try to call out those like me who DO QUESTION it, are the problem here. Not those of us trying to save what is left of this Republic.
If you want to blindly follow along with everything they spew, like a sheep, then by all means that is YOUR right.
I refuse. I will stand on my own merits, I will follow all CONSTITUTIONAL, reasonable, MORAL, and JUST laws but I will NOT abide by any such "law" that is shoved at me under threat of obey or else....
AND until people like you figure out the difference, this entire decline in our country is going to not just continue but get MUCH worse.
Guess what? Just because something is law, does NOT MAKE IT RIGHT or absolute. I don't BLINDLY accept, assume, or follow someone because they say I should. And MAN MADE law, from a fast increasingly corrupt government, is the WORST thing someone that purports to be a patriot and good person should be blindly calling as loyalty because many of those "laws" you blindly want to follow are corrupt as hell. And to top it off, unconstitutional as hell too..
People like you that blindly follow some politician and accept whatever "law" they say is in power, people like you that don't question or call out the corrupt and the laws they pass in that power, and people like you that try to call out those like me who DO QUESTION it, are the problem here. Not those of us trying to save what is left of this Republic.
If you want to blindly follow along with everything they spew, like a sheep, then by all means that is YOUR right.
I refuse. I will stand on my own merits, I will follow all CONSTITUTIONAL, reasonable, MORAL, and JUST laws but I will NOT abide by any such "law" that is shoved at me under threat of obey or else....
AND until people like you figure out the difference, this entire decline in our country is going to not just continue but get MUCH worse.
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CWO3 (Join to see)
None of the additional conditions you have added to your loyalty exist. Read for yourself. Any law that is Constitutional is the standard. Saying they have to pass a personal smell test for you to obey just identifies you as a buffet Constitutionalist. The pick and choose method is going to land some folks in jail for their actions on 1/6/21. So, you shouldn't claim the high road if you hold yourself to a standard other than the law, as you have admitted. That doesn't make those that do abide the bad guys either.
The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted):
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
The Oath of Office (for officers):
"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."
The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted):
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
The Oath of Office (for officers):
"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."
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I don't agree with any new forms of gun control, but I also don't agree with labeling people leftist troll. Last I checked this was still a Republic. As a Republic we elect individuals to represent us. These elected officials choose what to pass as law and what dies. We as citizens have the duty to inform those elected officials of our will, they may or may not follow our will. Many of the reasons why the Dems are in charge now is due to the previous administration. Many Americans who normally would not have voted did. Meaning we are stuck with this until 2022, when we can turn the House red once again. Now the Republicans should be looking at what is going on and start to modify their stances on somethings, or 2022 may be as bad as 2020.
Also, some food for thought, who is going to be dumb enough to admit they are going to violate Federal Law on a public forum?
Also, some food for thought, who is going to be dumb enough to admit they are going to violate Federal Law on a public forum?
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PO1 Todd B.
My leftist troll comment is geared toward those we know who do nothing but that... It's not geared toward liberals or democrats as a whole.. The people it was geared toward know who they are.
And stop trying to convince us the election was fair and true.. You can believe what you want.. as far as I am concerned, the election was a fraud.. PERIOD. But I am not hear for that.. I am hear for a blatant push and move to take away a Constitutional Right...
There are well over 150 MILLION gun owners with double or triple that in the number of firearms owned. It is and HAS BEEN clear for a while now that our "government" is no longer for and by the people.. You can spin it all you want.. The rest of us know the truth.
A few in power that somehow keep staying in power for decades, have the control. Even now they congress is moving to actually OVER TURN a legit certified house vote in Iowa... yet the left uses that same old tired excuse you just did about elections and on and on.. Well apparently the rest of the left never got the same memo you did because they intend on voting in committee to OVER RULE THE PUBLICS VOTE and decision.
... and so back to my question is, WHAT will you do if this happens? What side of the line will you stand or will you uphold your oath?
And stop trying to convince us the election was fair and true.. You can believe what you want.. as far as I am concerned, the election was a fraud.. PERIOD. But I am not hear for that.. I am hear for a blatant push and move to take away a Constitutional Right...
There are well over 150 MILLION gun owners with double or triple that in the number of firearms owned. It is and HAS BEEN clear for a while now that our "government" is no longer for and by the people.. You can spin it all you want.. The rest of us know the truth.
A few in power that somehow keep staying in power for decades, have the control. Even now they congress is moving to actually OVER TURN a legit certified house vote in Iowa... yet the left uses that same old tired excuse you just did about elections and on and on.. Well apparently the rest of the left never got the same memo you did because they intend on voting in committee to OVER RULE THE PUBLICS VOTE and decision.
... and so back to my question is, WHAT will you do if this happens? What side of the line will you stand or will you uphold your oath?
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CW3 Kevin Storm
As WO who is in the retired reserve status subject to recall, I am morally and legally bound to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Does that mean I agree with it? Not always. Does that mean I will go to someone's door and request you hand over things...don't place money on that one either.
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PO1 Todd B.
Standing up and saying I will not abide is what MORE people need to do, not continue to be sheep like some here. We are in this mess because too many people hide behind comments like that...
And dems are not in charge for any reason that the amount of money changing hands outside the public view. This last election proved the American people can no longer believe in legit elections..
AND once pelosi and her election committee over turn the CERTIFIED votes in Iowa to change the outcome of the Iowa election, what excuse will you use then to call our elections legit?
You can keep sticking your head in the sand all you want.. I no longer will remain quiet nor hide behind what I see happening.. THIS AMERICAN will speak out more and more and will do so in public. You can try to shame some into remaining quiet with your comment about those speaking out are dumb...
Are you trying to imply that those of us speak should be concerned, afraid of 'them' coming for us because we have and do speak out? Are you admitting the USA has already turned the corner into tyranny, if that's the case? Someone comes for me in the night, they better understand I will fight. I will defend my home, my family and my oath... and if that comes from me exercising my First Amendment but publicly and loudly now, then so be it. Unlike you, I don't intend on sitting on my ass doing nothing and acting like a sheep.. I want to save this Republic and this is only the first step.. speaking out and making my voice heard.
From my perspective, the dumbs ones are not those of us speaking out more and more.. No, the dumb ones are those that refuse to step up and do so BEFORE THINGS GET worse or come to a level that pushes things way over the edge into something none of us want to see.
The dumb ones are those that refuse to step up and do SOMETHING about it, even if it is speaking out about it in public.
And dems are not in charge for any reason that the amount of money changing hands outside the public view. This last election proved the American people can no longer believe in legit elections..
AND once pelosi and her election committee over turn the CERTIFIED votes in Iowa to change the outcome of the Iowa election, what excuse will you use then to call our elections legit?
You can keep sticking your head in the sand all you want.. I no longer will remain quiet nor hide behind what I see happening.. THIS AMERICAN will speak out more and more and will do so in public. You can try to shame some into remaining quiet with your comment about those speaking out are dumb...
Are you trying to imply that those of us speak should be concerned, afraid of 'them' coming for us because we have and do speak out? Are you admitting the USA has already turned the corner into tyranny, if that's the case? Someone comes for me in the night, they better understand I will fight. I will defend my home, my family and my oath... and if that comes from me exercising my First Amendment but publicly and loudly now, then so be it. Unlike you, I don't intend on sitting on my ass doing nothing and acting like a sheep.. I want to save this Republic and this is only the first step.. speaking out and making my voice heard.
From my perspective, the dumbs ones are not those of us speaking out more and more.. No, the dumb ones are those that refuse to step up and do so BEFORE THINGS GET worse or come to a level that pushes things way over the edge into something none of us want to see.
The dumb ones are those that refuse to step up and do SOMETHING about it, even if it is speaking out about it in public.
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A1C Michael Beal
CW3 Kevin Storm - We took an oath to obey the lawful orders of those over us. Gun confiscation isn't a lawful order as it is a direct infriungement on the 2nd Amendment. Our obligation, in that instance, is to refuse the order.
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