Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade in landmark opinion

That's great and all, but if you are waiting around for "laws which most would agree with", you may be waiting for a very long time.

The aspect of the 4th Amendment that applies is "The right of the people to be secure in their persons". To which you will say "against unreasonable searches and seizures". To which I would respond that if people can parse out the Second amendment to completely ignore "well regulated militia", the very same parsing can be done for the 4th to focus entirely on a person's personal security and privacy. Ownership of the self and, by extension, whatever issues from the self.

I am curious though. How many fetuses have you personally carried, to term or otherwise?

Yeah so we've been sitting here for 50 years unable to actually implement one.

The 4th amendment does not apply. No woman has to give up their privacy to have not have an abortion. And considering the fact that not a single element of abortion can be found in the Constitution, comparing it to your perception of a right which IS in the Constitution is apples to oranges. You speak of self while ignoring whether there is another "self" involved, which is unable to defend itself. Are you an absolute who believes in legalizing all the way to term? In that case, Roe Vs Wade I guess works for you. That is not the case for most Americans. The fact is there is no issue resulting in a loss of privacy initiated by the government.

As to your last statement... I assume you mean to imply that because I am a man that I don't get a say or an opinion. So how do you fit in? Why do you get to defend someone's "right" to an abortion? You have no idea what perspective I come from, whether I've been faced with the decision between myself and a significant other. What if it happened to my underage daughter, or son for that matter? You and I might differ on what constitutes a viable human being within the womb of a mother but what you can at least do is respect people for their perspective that there is another life at stake. Be it at conception or at some point in the pregnancy, you can disagree all you want, but again, most Americans and even the science disagree with you. Both my kids had to be removed via c-section because they didn't turn in my wife's womb. Would you also suggest we could still have aborted them instead if we chose? Seems to me that you were simply comfortable with Roe vs Wade, because it avoided the very complex conversation.

Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - Did not see your response until today...
Whether the 4th amendment applies or not is your opinion, and given you are not a judge ruling on a case, it has the same weight as my opinion. And as to the other 'self'; that other self is entirely reliant on the mother to sustain its life. In that sense, the woman carrying the child is entirely and wholly responsible and should be allowed the latitude to make a decision about something that she is entirely responsible for and must endure.

I do believe in legalizing all the way to term. I do not see any woman carrying a child for 8 months and then deciding on a whim not to go through with it. Late term abortions are very rare and generally involve some very serious medical issues. I am sure whatever punishment you may want to impose on a woman that carried a pregnancy for that long will be secondary to any torment she is already experiencing. And if you are of the mind that some women will just abort recreationally, then you may consider whatever torment put them in that state of mind in the first place, or their prospects for being a parent and actually raising a child... not good.

My point with the last statement is that womens' views should be given quite a bit more weight in this debate, and I am aware of the way the vast majority of women are leaning on this issue. Not sure how you arrive at 'most Americans disagree'. And not sure what 'science' you are referring to. I don't believe that is true, and even if it is, there is really only one segment of the population that matters on this issue. If men had to carry babies in any way other than in a very secondary support role, that might be different.

As to your hypothetical involving your own children, are you saying if the option of c-section were not available? Do you feel you have the ability to consider rationally in this hypothetical situation? I would say that would be a decision for your wife to make. I would hope she discussed it with you first and considered your opinion, but ultimately, her body, her life, her decision. If the consideration is that there was a choice between c-section and abortion, still her call. I again hope she would take your opinions on board, and would think she would consider all ramifications beyond personal convenience, pain, suffering, impact on the family, impact on the marriage, etc. And I would like to think she would arrive at the best solution.

My opinion was shared with several other judges. I coupled it with the complexities of the issue and specifically how it (privacy) does not apply. You then speak of late term abortions and dismiss them as rare, "generally" involving a serious medical issue. What about those which don't? That's the thing... My views on abortion are not absolute on either side. I believe there is a line and a point where a woman has the time to consider her options. A line in which a woman can reasonably decide whether they can manage a pregnancy, deal with any religious implications they might have, and ultimately sustain a child. A line in which a fetus becomes viable as a child, capable of living outside the womb. I'm not looking to torment women, but like any decision one must make, good or bad, at some point there should be a line and mine is simply different than yours. What I mean about most American's disagree, is with regards to the polling data in which most Americans do not believe abortion should be 100% banned or 100% allowed. Like me, they believe there is a line (where that line is, might be where many disagree). The point is, most Americans do not have an absolute position on this issue. Whether we're mean or women, I also think we should all have a say about this issue. Just as you have. You don't get to hide behind the argument that it is solely a woman's issue, so let them decide and then go on to stating your opinion. I get that it is the woman who ultimately carries 100% of the physical and most of the mental burden, but that doesn't mean the men should be cut out of the issue. Especially when it could involve a girlfriend at an early age, a daughter, a wife, rape, incest, an affair, and even religion.

As for my so-called hypothetical situation, I was asking you a direct question which you are simply avoiding. You see, you'll point out situations where late term abortions are very rare, and usually coupled with health issues, but you'll avoid the other scenarios which can and do exist. My question was clear, are you saying if my wife chose to abort the pregnancy vs having the c-section, you would support that choice? It could be for various reasons; She didn't want to be cut open or the weight of having the baby was suddenly overwhelming. A perfectly viable baby is now subjected to abortion when it clearly has the ability to live outside the womb. That is the science I am referring to. I realize it takes things close to term, but that is the point. As we move further back into the earlier stages of a pregnancy fewer Americans support banning the abortion. Many are looking to what the science says and the implications of ending the viable life of a child. Like me, they also consider the physical harm having the baby might cause and are willing to see exceptions made.