Posted on Oct 3, 2021
Progressive Leader Pramila Jayapal: I Won’t Vote For Spending Bill That Includes Hyde Amendment
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Progressive House Democrats continue to tell people what they will and will not accept.
They don't seem to understand that 1 or 2 Senate Democrats have far more clout about the size and composition of a bill and what will eventually get passed than 10 or more House Democrats.
They also aren't considering the fact that the Senate is evenly divided and if only 1 Senate Democrat isn't present due to illness, injury, or death, then none of their bills will ever pass the Senate.
They don't seem to understand that 1 or 2 Senate Democrats have far more clout about the size and composition of a bill and what will eventually get passed than 10 or more House Democrats.
They also aren't considering the fact that the Senate is evenly divided and if only 1 Senate Democrat isn't present due to illness, injury, or death, then none of their bills will ever pass the Senate.
Progressive Leader Pramila Jayapal: I Won’t Vote For Spending Bill That Includes Hyde Amendment
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Margins are so tight that a very small handful of House progressives can blow up any legislation just as much as any one Senator can. As long as a few of them hang tough and stick together, they are just as powerful as any one Democratic Senator. That's no different than how the Freedom Caucus dictated things with the GOP.
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LTC Kevin B.
MSG (Join to see) I agree on Manchin, but disagree on Sinema. She won because Arizona has been trending blue in recent years, not because she's seen as a political maverick or as a conservative Democrat. I think she's making a huge political miscalculation. I think she may get primaried if she doesn't play this right. The Democrats may lose the seat if she does get primaried, but progressives are probably wondering if that will even matter if the current Democrat will doom their own agenda. I think this is the exact same type of scenario like when Republicans kick out a RINO. Personally, I hope she blows it and gets kicked out of her seat.
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LTC Kevin B. -
You are probably right that Democrats will try to find a more progressive candidate to run against her in the primary. I think that would be a huge mistake on their part if they won.
According to the article below, many of the Arizona Democrats elected into office were first elected in 2018.
Arizona trended Democrat in 2018 after being mostly Republican. You may recall that prior to that, both Senators were GOP. Most of the offices lost were due to Trump and stayed that way in 2020, again due to Trump.
Since 2010 to current, the GOP has controlled almost all political offices including Governor, Secretary of State, Treasurer, and control of the State Senate and House
BTW, I was wrong. Her term doesn't end until 2024.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_Arizona
You are probably right that Democrats will try to find a more progressive candidate to run against her in the primary. I think that would be a huge mistake on their part if they won.
According to the article below, many of the Arizona Democrats elected into office were first elected in 2018.
Arizona trended Democrat in 2018 after being mostly Republican. You may recall that prior to that, both Senators were GOP. Most of the offices lost were due to Trump and stayed that way in 2020, again due to Trump.
Since 2010 to current, the GOP has controlled almost all political offices including Governor, Secretary of State, Treasurer, and control of the State Senate and House
BTW, I was wrong. Her term doesn't end until 2024.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_Arizona
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LTC Kevin B.
MSG (Join to see) - I've changed my perspective on that. Normally, I'd agree with you that a more liberal Democrat might lose the general election in a state like Arizona. However, a more liberal Democrat just might energize their base progressive even more, especially more so than what they might turn off with voters near the middle. I've seen the GOP do that by ignoring the middle and playing to the far right. The strategy is to squeeze out more of your own voters, and don't worry about those in the middle. Centrists don't motivate the hardcore voters. The old logic was to nominate a centrist and appeal to independents and crossover voters (while painting your opponent as an extremist). Hyperpartisan politics has changed the political calculus.
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LTC Kevin B. -
I think with Trump out of office, the Senate and House will swing back to GOP in 2022.
I also think many of the Democrats who won and benefited from the wave of people who were voting against Trump instead of for Democrat policies, will find themselves in some tough re-election battles.
I think with Trump out of office, the Senate and House will swing back to GOP in 2022.
I also think many of the Democrats who won and benefited from the wave of people who were voting against Trump instead of for Democrat policies, will find themselves in some tough re-election battles.
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