Posted on Oct 22, 2021
Actor Alec Baldwin Kills One Person, Wounds Another When Prop-Gun 'Misfires'
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You would think an "enlightened" leftist would know that even a blank can kill a person. Never point a loaded weapon at a person unless they are criminals who need to be put down.
Actor Alec Baldwin Kills One Person, Wounds Another When Prop-Gun 'Misfires'
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You handle a weapon - you are responsible for ensuring it is safe. Yea, I'm sure several people will blame the prop person and not even blink or think that the person pulling the trigger is in any way at fault.
It was drilled into my head that *any* weapon I point at anyone else is MY responsibility. Period. That includes training with Miles Gear where we do aim and pull the trigger with someone in our sites.
He should be facing manslaughter charges - even if it comes with no time served. But, since he is an actor about the worst he'll face is "mans laughter" and possibly some ridicule for a few weeks until it is forgotten.
It was drilled into my head that *any* weapon I point at anyone else is MY responsibility. Period. That includes training with Miles Gear where we do aim and pull the trigger with someone in our sites.
He should be facing manslaughter charges - even if it comes with no time served. But, since he is an actor about the worst he'll face is "mans laughter" and possibly some ridicule for a few weeks until it is forgotten.
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I'd call it second degree, not manslaughter. It may have been unintentional, but he wasn't in a scene, he shot and killed a cinematographer. Why did he point and fire a "prop" at a crew member?
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Cpl (Join to see) - The article is clear that it was off set people killed/injured. It was not in any way clear of the actions taken by the actor other than he pulled the trigger. Was he sitting in a chair off camera and lazily waving the gun up in the air and pulled the trigger without even looking where he was aiming? Why did they even need a gun to do this as that is what the art of Foley is for. Way too much guessing. But I have a feeling you are closer to right than I am. ;)
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Very bad accident but we have seen several. In one a bullet was fired from a cartridge with only a primer. The bullet only went part way into the barrel. A stunt blank was then inserted into the weapon with out clearing the weapon. The blank was fired forcing the bullet out and killing the actor. Another actor put a blank gun up to his head and the paper wadding killed him.
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I honestly don't think it was an accident. I don't think anything mis-fired either. In fact I think the revolver functioned just like it was designed to do.
I think the actor was handed the prop gun from the prop gun department lock box. And niether the prop department custodian nor Mr. Baldwin took the time to be responsible enough to check to see if the gun was safe to handle.
In other words, no one checked the revolver before it was removed from the firearms cabinet or lock box to see if indeed there was a round in one of the revolvers five cylinders. I say five because unless the owner was a gunslinger and he was packing all six cylinders he would have kept the 6th one empty. You see cowboys kept the hammer down on an empty sixth cylinder so if the gun fell out of their holster there was less chance of it discharging and shooting them or their horse.
In fact I would not be surprised if Mr. Baldwin pulled that trigger to see if the weapon functioned by dry firing it without checking to see in the gun had a round in the chamber. Maybe he was even panning for the camera and fired what he thought was an empty gun and "Bang" it went off striking the cinematographer. and the director.
One things certain here to me. That gun never pulled it's own trigger? It didn't load itself? It didn't point itself at anyone. So to me it wasn't a mis-fire either. Someone either takes all the blame or they split it amongst themselves.
I think the actor was handed the prop gun from the prop gun department lock box. And niether the prop department custodian nor Mr. Baldwin took the time to be responsible enough to check to see if the gun was safe to handle.
In other words, no one checked the revolver before it was removed from the firearms cabinet or lock box to see if indeed there was a round in one of the revolvers five cylinders. I say five because unless the owner was a gunslinger and he was packing all six cylinders he would have kept the 6th one empty. You see cowboys kept the hammer down on an empty sixth cylinder so if the gun fell out of their holster there was less chance of it discharging and shooting them or their horse.
In fact I would not be surprised if Mr. Baldwin pulled that trigger to see if the weapon functioned by dry firing it without checking to see in the gun had a round in the chamber. Maybe he was even panning for the camera and fired what he thought was an empty gun and "Bang" it went off striking the cinematographer. and the director.
One things certain here to me. That gun never pulled it's own trigger? It didn't load itself? It didn't point itself at anyone. So to me it wasn't a mis-fire either. Someone either takes all the blame or they split it amongst themselves.
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SFC Jim Ruether
Had someone simply rechecked the handgun to unsure it was indeed empty this incident may have not happened at all. So much pain, so much loss, so much stupidty! If Mrs. Hutchens was taking a still shot of Mr. Baldwin giving her his most menacing look, down the barrel of a gun maybe she should have stood slightly out of his direct line of fire like it is expressed in all or most cinemetography manuals. In fact even with gun fights breaking out all the time in westerns they position the shootists in slightly different angles so as to avoid injuries likke this.
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