Posted on Dec 15, 2022
No, vaccinated people are not more likely to die from COVID-19 than unvaccinated people
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https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00 [login to see] 9-5
Autopsy-based histopathological characterization of myocarditis after anti-SARS-CoV-2-vaccination...
Cases of myocarditis, diagnosed clinically by laboratory tests and imaging have been described in the context of mRNA-based anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Autopsy-based description of detailed histological features of vaccine-induced myocarditis is lacking. We describe the autopsy findings and common characteristics of myocarditis in untreated persons who received anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Standardized autopsies were performed on 25 persons...
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Agree - however, all is not absolutely well and good with the vaccinations. People that deny the legitimate concerns of those looking at the shot have their heads stuck in the sand just like those that claim the shot has no value.
COVID vaccinations SAVE LIVES. There is absolute proof of this. In the above report, it is absolutely true that there were more deaths of vaccinated individuals than unvaccinated individuals in August (58% vaccinated vs 42% unvaccinated) but what the second chart in the video represents is the total that were vaccinated (which actually is wrong .. the percentage is more like 80% .. unless they were only counting those that had a booster within a certain period of time). going from a straight statistical view, the unvaccinated died at a rate about 30% higher than the vaccinated group and this goes up ~53% higher if you use the 80% figure of people that have gotten at least one jab.
While not a 'smoking gun' that proves the death rate (there could be other factors at play and the way the medical system counts a 'COVID death' overcounts it being the cause of death), it absolutely is indicative that those that are unvaccinated die due to COVID or complications amplified by COVID at a higher rate than the vaccinated individuals do.
However, all is not absolutely well and good with the vaccinations. People that deny the legitimate concerns of those looking at the shot have their heads stuck in the sand just like those that claim the shot has no value.
Myocarditis, as mentioned by CPT Lawrence Cable, is a perfect example. There are MUCH higher incidences of Myocarditis (studies have it ranging from 75% up to 200%) after the vaccination than would be expected in a baseline comparison. This is not to say that the mortality is higher - from the latest study, more than 80% of those that developed myocarditis after the vaccination 'fully recovered' from it an. Additionally, the incident rate of developing myocarditis after a vaccination, while statistically higher when compared to the baseline, is still very low (~30 per 100,000 individuals, of which statistically 24 would recover fully).
This an other issues with the vaccination are why I'm pro-vaccine, but anti-mandate. Many people's situations are different and many have valid concerns (rather than irrational hyperbole ... "If you don't get the jab, you're going to kill yourself and others!!!!" or "Getting the jab will only protect you if you're high-risk because if you're healthy you have nothing to worry about") about getting vaccinated.
There should be INCENTIVES for people to get the vaccine, but not punishments if they don't.
COVID vaccinations SAVE LIVES. There is absolute proof of this. In the above report, it is absolutely true that there were more deaths of vaccinated individuals than unvaccinated individuals in August (58% vaccinated vs 42% unvaccinated) but what the second chart in the video represents is the total that were vaccinated (which actually is wrong .. the percentage is more like 80% .. unless they were only counting those that had a booster within a certain period of time). going from a straight statistical view, the unvaccinated died at a rate about 30% higher than the vaccinated group and this goes up ~53% higher if you use the 80% figure of people that have gotten at least one jab.
While not a 'smoking gun' that proves the death rate (there could be other factors at play and the way the medical system counts a 'COVID death' overcounts it being the cause of death), it absolutely is indicative that those that are unvaccinated die due to COVID or complications amplified by COVID at a higher rate than the vaccinated individuals do.
However, all is not absolutely well and good with the vaccinations. People that deny the legitimate concerns of those looking at the shot have their heads stuck in the sand just like those that claim the shot has no value.
Myocarditis, as mentioned by CPT Lawrence Cable, is a perfect example. There are MUCH higher incidences of Myocarditis (studies have it ranging from 75% up to 200%) after the vaccination than would be expected in a baseline comparison. This is not to say that the mortality is higher - from the latest study, more than 80% of those that developed myocarditis after the vaccination 'fully recovered' from it an. Additionally, the incident rate of developing myocarditis after a vaccination, while statistically higher when compared to the baseline, is still very low (~30 per 100,000 individuals, of which statistically 24 would recover fully).
This an other issues with the vaccination are why I'm pro-vaccine, but anti-mandate. Many people's situations are different and many have valid concerns (rather than irrational hyperbole ... "If you don't get the jab, you're going to kill yourself and others!!!!" or "Getting the jab will only protect you if you're high-risk because if you're healthy you have nothing to worry about") about getting vaccinated.
There should be INCENTIVES for people to get the vaccine, but not punishments if they don't.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
If you read the synopsis I posted, one of the points they make is that "fully recovered" isn't as true as CDC/WHO want you to believe. While they looked at a fairly specific set, they did look at the broader picture and instead of recovered, it may be a ticking time bomb.
Engineers love numbers, do you want to bet if I ran the number of Myocarditis cases against just under 30 males, the population group effected, that number isn't going to be 30 per 100,000? Damn lies and Statistics, as they say.
I was Army and Army National Guard, I couldn't even begin to list the vaccines I had over the years. I taken the pneumonia vaccine, Hep A & B, usually get a flu shot and I have had the first two Covid vaccines (Phizer). My problem with the Pro Vaccine crowd, especially with new vaccines, they tend to be less effective or for rarer diseases, or they exaggerate the consequences of the disease in questions. Mention the MMR and the Pro side will start telling you how many people you would murder if you don't force this on children. Since I am old enough to have been in school before these came out, I can tell you that I don't know a single person that died from one of these when these infections were commonplace. I had all three of these, plus chicken pox and shingles. I would take the shingle vaccine today if any of the documentation showed it gave better immunity than having the disease. But the MRNA vaccine doesn't stop you from getting it and doesn't keep you from spreading it.
Engineers love numbers, do you want to bet if I ran the number of Myocarditis cases against just under 30 males, the population group effected, that number isn't going to be 30 per 100,000? Damn lies and Statistics, as they say.
I was Army and Army National Guard, I couldn't even begin to list the vaccines I had over the years. I taken the pneumonia vaccine, Hep A & B, usually get a flu shot and I have had the first two Covid vaccines (Phizer). My problem with the Pro Vaccine crowd, especially with new vaccines, they tend to be less effective or for rarer diseases, or they exaggerate the consequences of the disease in questions. Mention the MMR and the Pro side will start telling you how many people you would murder if you don't force this on children. Since I am old enough to have been in school before these came out, I can tell you that I don't know a single person that died from one of these when these infections were commonplace. I had all three of these, plus chicken pox and shingles. I would take the shingle vaccine today if any of the documentation showed it gave better immunity than having the disease. But the MRNA vaccine doesn't stop you from getting it and doesn't keep you from spreading it.
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