Posted on Jan 9, 2023
Get Ready for Fort Liberty: The Pentagon Begins Changing Confederate Base Names
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It's a sad state of affairs when the government starts to erase history and historical monuments for our country. The civil war is part of our history. The confederates were U.S. citizens, fighting for what they thought was right. Many of the confederate officers were established officers in the Union prior to the civil war.
Since the democrats want to erase history, and remove anything associated with the confederacy, I say we use Ancestry.com or FamilySearch and start removing every politician that has ties to the confederacy. They obviously can't be trusted to make the right choice because of their family ties.
Since the democrats want to erase history, and remove anything associated with the confederacy, I say we use Ancestry.com or FamilySearch and start removing every politician that has ties to the confederacy. They obviously can't be trusted to make the right choice because of their family ties.
Get Ready for Fort Liberty: The Pentagon Begins Changing Confederate Base Names
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Once the surrender was signed - Grant at the behest of Lincoln, sent out the order -- “The war is over; the rebels are our countrymen again; and the best sign of rejoicing after the victory will be to abstain from all demonstrations in the field.” -- Seems that demonstrations in the "field" are still happening; ie. those countrymen will never be seen as countrymen again...
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They don't want to be seen as "countrymen" or they wouldn't teach the revisionist version of the Civil War that they teach in the South. They wouldn't claim the Confederacy as "heritage." They wouldn't have their cosplay reenactments of losing the Civil War.
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CSM Chuck Stafford
As a product of the NC public school system, I was taught that the south lost; I am not sure who this they is. I've been a cadet at West Point and a student at the USASMA and in both esteemed institutions, the south lost; still not sure who this ephemeral they is. As a senior NCO, I've been to many Civil War battlefields and re-enactments, the south still lost. Maybe the they are the few buffoonist racists who are a minority that the majority ignore. Don't give them the time of your day either -- they will still be who they are regardless of what the bases are called. Evil exists in this world, bad things happen in this world -- we can't legislate it away, we can't wish it away. I can only speak on Ft Bragg with any amount of confidence. From in WWI to the Global War on Terror, millions of men and women have served at Ft Bragg and their legacy of being a fearsome fighting force sends a shockwave around the world when it is announced that the paratroopers from Bragg are in the air and on their way. Again, the world doesn't think of confederacy at that point, but rather the 100+ years of honorable American fighting force going to kick butt. Alas the decision has been made and the Soldiers of Liberty will have the opportunity to add the next Chapters to the legacy. I'll end with, I am sure of two things, "they" will still exist out there, but "they" won't have the fortitude to thrive as 3-time volunteers @ Liberty.
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I wionder when the Democratic change their name. Democrats are associated with stealing Native American land, the trail of tears, slavery, the civil war on the confederate side, Jim Crow, KKK. With a record of supporting all that they should be ashamed to wear the name!
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Technically those confederate soldiers and officers were traitors. And as such are no different then any of our enemies trying to destroy America. Yes, it is part of our history and our history is what defines us in a sense. We hope as a nation that we learn to correct our past mistakes. Not always the case but we continue to work on it. And hopefully we have a stronger Union. Personally I believe maybe federally it is a good idea to change the name of the bases. Because of the continuous division between American citizens right now, what can it realistically hurt? Does it really effect you in your everyday lives? States on the other hand can do what ever they’re comfortable with and their constituents agree. Of course this is a humble opinion from a conservative who is trying to be open minded. It is when we open our eyes and ears and not jump to criticize that we may learn! Is there really a right or wrong definitive answer?
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CPO David R. D. - I took it as sarcasm, no worries. When they first started talking about it I was furious. How can we destroy history! But my son who is sometimes more conservative then me, asked how I felt towards traitors of today (Bergdahl, Snowden etc). It actually got me thinking and I hought maybe we should rename them. And he was also right that it didn’t really effect my daily life one way or the other. The biggest thing that bothers me now is the cost of those changes. But our government has spent our money on much crazier ideas.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
They are traitors only in hindsight.
Prior to the Civil War, The United States was a plural noun; after, it was a singular noun. The States were viewed as very closely allied sovereigns, with a federal government that was more of a parent of grown kids than it was a parent of toddlers. The federal government's role was to step in when the states needed help, but otherwise stay out of their way.
As such, those Soldiers and Officers were loyal to their state FIRST, because the states were sovereign. Lincoln actually asked Lee to lead the Union Army, and Lee said he would do so - as long as Virginia did not secede. Once Virginia seceded, he felt he had no choice but to serve in the Confederate Army as he was a Virginian, and Virginia was no longer in the Union.
And remember, those states were NOT in the Union. They had officially seceded.
That's not a traitorousness, that's loyalty.
Prior to the Civil War, The United States was a plural noun; after, it was a singular noun. The States were viewed as very closely allied sovereigns, with a federal government that was more of a parent of grown kids than it was a parent of toddlers. The federal government's role was to step in when the states needed help, but otherwise stay out of their way.
As such, those Soldiers and Officers were loyal to their state FIRST, because the states were sovereign. Lincoln actually asked Lee to lead the Union Army, and Lee said he would do so - as long as Virginia did not secede. Once Virginia seceded, he felt he had no choice but to serve in the Confederate Army as he was a Virginian, and Virginia was no longer in the Union.
And remember, those states were NOT in the Union. They had officially seceded.
That's not a traitorousness, that's loyalty.
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