Posted on Jan 27, 2023
Idaho governor wins lawsuit against illegal encampment outside Capitol: 'We are not Portland'
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The sad truth is that most homeless people want to be exactly where they are. They typically need help with drug addiction and/or mental illness and just want any organization to give them a place to exist (some would say party but it isn’t) where there aren't any rules. They will not go anyplace where they must follow rules.
I blame our elected officials and bureaucrats who over the last 30 years or so closed most of the state-run faculties that cared for these people who became homeless arguing they could receive equal care on an outpatient basis. These officials took the funding for these facilities and used it on their pet projects playing a shell game with funding to justify increased spending. It seems like in Idaho they still have some organizations left to care for these people. They better do their best to keep them because once they are gone you not only lose your facilities, but you lose your expertise to work with drug addicted and/or mentally ill people.
I blame our elected officials and bureaucrats who over the last 30 years or so closed most of the state-run faculties that cared for these people who became homeless arguing they could receive equal care on an outpatient basis. These officials took the funding for these facilities and used it on their pet projects playing a shell game with funding to justify increased spending. It seems like in Idaho they still have some organizations left to care for these people. They better do their best to keep them because once they are gone you not only lose your facilities, but you lose your expertise to work with drug addicted and/or mentally ill people.
Idaho governor wins lawsuit against illegal encampment outside Capitol: 'We are not Portland'
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I believe this is what the Idaho Governor was referring to when he mentioned Portland. It still boggles my mind, that Oregon passed Measure 110 in 2020. I took this paragraph from an Oregon website, which explained that the penalties for these drugs changed from Felonies, to Class E Misdemeanors:
"The measure eliminates criminal penalties for possession of specified quantities of controlled substances by adults and juveniles involving: heroin (1 gram or less), cocaine (2 grams or less), methamphetamine (2 grams or less), MDMA (less than 1 gram or 5 pills), LSD (less than 40 user units), psilocybin (less than 12 ..."
And Oregonians wonder why they have such a huge drug problem.
The goal in Oregon's passing of this policy, was to keep people out of prison and get them help in treatment centers. I get it, but if a person doesn't want to give up their habit, then no amount of treatment is going to help. Addiction, of any kind, is very powerful and cannot be overcome alone. There has to be an intervention, and a desire on the user's part to quit.
"The measure eliminates criminal penalties for possession of specified quantities of controlled substances by adults and juveniles involving: heroin (1 gram or less), cocaine (2 grams or less), methamphetamine (2 grams or less), MDMA (less than 1 gram or 5 pills), LSD (less than 40 user units), psilocybin (less than 12 ..."
And Oregonians wonder why they have such a huge drug problem.
The goal in Oregon's passing of this policy, was to keep people out of prison and get them help in treatment centers. I get it, but if a person doesn't want to give up their habit, then no amount of treatment is going to help. Addiction, of any kind, is very powerful and cannot be overcome alone. There has to be an intervention, and a desire on the user's part to quit.
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They got what they voted for. I hope it doesn't spread across their border. I will be very angry if any of my tax money is spent to help them with this bull crap.
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Good for him! I always wonder why, if there are shelters available, why do people continue to choose to live on the streets? And why Idaho? If I had to be homeless, I'm gonna get enough money to buy a one-way ticket to Hawaii. They have a lot of homeless on Oahu, and the weather is amazing, year round. Idaho, their weather sucks, if you have to live in a tent.
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CPO David R. D.
SFC (Join to see) - Having been stationed in San Diego twice, their homeless problem is out of control, at least it was back in 2013, which is when I PCS'd out of there for the last time.
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I generally agree with your assessment. I've done a lot of work for the various organizations in my area and my opinion is that the "homeless" community breaks down in three categories. Those that are mentally ill and are incapable of dealing with normal society, then drug addicts and alcoholics that have managed to destroy their home life, friends and family. Of course, you have a large part of that mentally ill population that self medicates, so that line isn't always very clear.
Yes, we threw the mentally ill out on the street to fend for themselves until they get killed or end up in prison. How much of the prison population would we eliminate if we switched that part of the population and substitutes resident care.
Yes, we threw the mentally ill out on the street to fend for themselves until they get killed or end up in prison. How much of the prison population would we eliminate if we switched that part of the population and substitutes resident care.
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You offer good comments about the subject of the homeless sir. I had a family member recently that succumbed to all these characteristics we are speaking about, and one in the past who received help in the late 60’s to early 70’s and was able to turn their life around. The entire situation makes me very sad and angry, sad that these people suffer, angry that the resources they need so bad was diverted away from them on what I consider false pretenses.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SFC (Join to see) - In a number of ways, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions. In what started as an effort to reform the resident mental health facilities ended up just throwing the mentally ill out on the street. We have a real crisis today and unfortunately there is too many of the "advocates" are pushing "enabling" instead of any real help.
The drug problem is even worse. I don't see how anything will change as long as we tolerate use. Legalize pot, I don't even care it they legalize things like mushrooms, but lets quit pretending that Meth, Oxy and Fentanyl is the same as getting drunk.
Over the last three years locally there has been so many overdoses that my opinion of what we should do with people selling is a fast trial and a firing squad.
The drug problem is even worse. I don't see how anything will change as long as we tolerate use. Legalize pot, I don't even care it they legalize things like mushrooms, but lets quit pretending that Meth, Oxy and Fentanyl is the same as getting drunk.
Over the last three years locally there has been so many overdoses that my opinion of what we should do with people selling is a fast trial and a firing squad.
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CPT Lawrence Cable - You hit the nail on the head. Enabling is not a treatment for the ill, it is a road to ruin, pain, suffering, and death.
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